For years we have been banging a drum

  Forum Editor 09:49 13 May 2017

in our forums - the one labelled 'keep your copy of Windows updated'.

There can never have been a better example of the risks associated with ignoring that advice than what happened yesterday.

In particular, it highlights the need for those people who are still running early copies of Windows - particularly Windows XP - to upgrade to a more recent, fully supported version.

  Brumas 09:59 13 May 2017


Whilst I can appreciate there is no such thing as a completely safe OS I do feel less vulnerable having a mac.

  Jollyjohn 10:00 13 May 2017

or running a Linux box............

  Fruit Bat /\0/\ 10:02 13 May 2017

Hope they have a back up?

  LastChip 10:33 13 May 2017

If you want trouble free computing, Linux is the answer.

Unfortunately, we live in a world where practically everything is geared towards Windows.

For example, my son needs to use Photoshop for his profession. Although it can be used on-line, it's slow compared to a local installation. Some of the very specialist software he uses during the editing process is only available for Windows. So he's lumbered as far as changing systems is concerned.

Although it's possible to run some of this stuff via Wine, it's flaky at best and cannot be considered usable at a professional level.

But why people with "normal" computer needs continue to use Windows, is beyond me.

The problem with the NHS is, they've got very specialist equipment with bespoke programs written (often only) for XP and cannot change them. It would run into multi-millions of pounds they simple haven't got. Though simply using an up to date anti-virus and anti-malware program shouldn't be beyond them.

Now they've discovered the true cost of ignoring the inevitable.

What's the betting a few million will now be miraculously found from somewhere for a systems upgrade.

  Belatucadrus 11:15 13 May 2017

I used to work for a large company with many PCs, they were red hot on paying for licences on AV software, but less good on setting up the PCs. When I checked out the ones in our department none of them were set to update the AV automatically. The updates were hosted on the company Intranet and it needed a few easy tweaks to set. They had also never been around and updated the software despite paying for the latest versions, most of the versions installed were unsupported and one or two so old they were incompatible with the updates. Took me a while but I updated and reset the lot and no I wasn't in the IT dept.

I think they took the view that as most company PCs didn't have Internet access It didn't matter that much. I decided that as they all had Intranet that was shared with Internet users and E-mail that it did.

  Cymro. 12:23 13 May 2017

I wonder why it is that on this occasion at least Wales seems to have got away without any problems with it's NHS site. I assumed that as the Welsh NHS and the English one are much the same what would apply to one would apply to the other.

  Pine Man 12:39 13 May 2017

I wonder why it is that on this occasion at least Wales seems to have got away without any problems

Probably for the same reason that many parts of England were not affected.

  lotvic 14:54 13 May 2017

Microsoft release Wannacrypt patch for unsupported Windows XP, Windows 8 and Windows Server 2003

Clickhere for more info and Clickhere

  Forum Editor 15:43 13 May 2017


"If you want trouble free computing, Linux is the answer."

If that was true, we would all be using it. Linux is not trouble free, as your son (and millions of other people) has discovered. Photoshop is used by huge numbers of people - including me - on a regular basis, and it runs perfectly in Windows 10.

There's a reason why software companies don't develop for Linux in a big way, and it's a simple one - only five computers out of every 100 use it. That figure has increased over the past 10 years, but only by 2%.

The simple fact is that people prefer Windows to every other operating system, and by a big margin - MacOs is twice as popular as Linux, but it still only gets 10% of the market.

Some people say Linux is safer than Windows, but it isn't. The reason why you don't hear a lot about Linux vulnerabilities is that relatively speaking so few people use it. Flaws in Linux are there, but go undetected because nobody thinks it worth their while to exploit them. A potentially serious privilege escalation bug - CVE–2016–5195 (or 'Dirty Cow') - went undetected for nine years before it was spotted by the Linux community, and most Linux bugs exist for an average of five years before anyone does anything about them.

Dirty Cow is still sitting there, in huge numbers of Linux machines, because their users don't know anything about it.

Like the large majority of the world's computer users, I'll stick to good old Windows.

  Menzie 17:13 13 May 2017

I've had a love/hate relationship with Linux. On one hand what I've used is stable if you go with an install and get the software from the built in repository. Going with something online however has never been easy or intuitive for me.

For me the most intuitive OS has been Workbench on the Commodore Amiga. I understood it, could tweak it and found it stable.

My first experience with Windows was 3.1 at school and it wasn't as good to me. My second experience was NT in college and the computers were worse than the ones in my Secondary school.

At home my first PC was Windows 98 and since my system exceeded the required specs it was fast and stable.

However I've stuck with Windows over the years as I find the software easy to get, prices are unbelievable, and you can pick up any new hardware safe in the knowledge it is compatible.

Does Windows annoy​ me at times? Yes but there are literally thousands of software/hardware combinations out there so issues are bound to crop up.

Windows 10 updated the other day and my WiFi became really poor, sorted itself out however as I reckon either my antivirus or firewall never liked something and started going at the settings. They self update so I'm guessing one of the updates allowed them to play nicely.

My laptop is running Linux Mint, unfortunately Windows 8 and above doesn't have any video drivers and neither does Linux. The system is fast and stable but cannot play videos unfortunately or run any games. Thankfully I use it for web browsing and typing only.

I have dabbled with Macs in college but never used any of them properly so no knowledge there.

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