Winning is not important. Or is it?

  oresome 19:36 02 Aug 2012
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An analysis of UK medals won in the Bejing Olympics shows a disproportionate number won by those who benefited from a private education.

Rupert Murdoch has entered the debate tweeting that the US and the UK teach that competitive sport is a bad thing, so it's no wonder they don't match China in the medal count. (I believe he's only talking about state schools teaching methods)

So, does money bring advantage or is the state sector taught mediocrity?

Discuss

  carver 20:47 02 Aug 2012

The thinking in some state schools is that it's the taking part that matters not the winning, load of horse manure.

We had a head teacher at our infant school and she even stopped the school sports day one year because she didn't want to upset the less athletic children.

Some schools don't even have the room to do sports since they were allowed to sell the sport fields under Labour.

  daz60 21:36 02 Aug 2012

When china becomes "democratic" and "transparent" maybe we can assess their sporting prowess.I dare say that some of these athletes have been to specific institutions catered for a specific sporting achievement and that any other schooling is circumstantial to that endeavour.If i am wrong on that point then i apologise.

Never the less the "sour" grapes,so far with no absolute definitive statement on wrongdoing,maybe a reflection on other major shifts in orientation.

Murdoch has 'cottoned' on to a debate that has been going on for years ,one which i agree with,that taking part is more important than winning,as if this imparts an elitist view which is wrong in certain liberal eyes because it implies superiority.

  rickf 22:17 02 Aug 2012

."I dare say that some of these athletes have been to specific institutions catered for a specific sporting achievement and that any other schooling is circumstantial to that endeavour.If i am wrong on that point then i apologise."

I would say that American Unis offering scholarships based of sporting prowess is exactly that and has been their practice for a long long time.

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  Forum Editor 22:38 02 Aug 2012

"it's no wonder they don't match China in the medal count."

One of the reasons for China's success in the medal tables is that they have so many people to choose from. For every person competing for a place in the British national team the Chinese will have 1000 hopefuls. They can afford to be very selective, and the communist state spends huge amounts of money on training top athletes. It doesn't have anything to do with us not being interested in winning.

Inevitably, Western athletes depend on funding in order to concentrate on training, and inevitably the children of wealthy parents are going to have an advantage if they decide to take up sport. Until and unless we decide that we want larger amounts of taxpayers' money to go into sport we'll have a rather unbalanced situation - wealthier people will have an advantage.

That's the way it is, and not just in this country.

  Forum Editor 22:38 02 Aug 2012

"it's no wonder they don't match China in the medal count."

One of the reasons for China's success in the medal tables is that they have so many people to choose from. For every person competing for a place in the British national team the Chinese will have 1000 hopefuls. They can afford to be very selective, and the communist state spends huge amounts of money on training top athletes. It doesn't have anything to do with us not being interested in winning.

Inevitably, Western athletes depend on funding in order to concentrate on training, and inevitably the children of wealthy parents are going to have an advantage if they decide to take up sport. Until and unless we decide that we want larger amounts of taxpayers' money to go into sport we'll have a rather unbalanced situation - wealthier people will have an advantage.

That's the way it is, and not just in this country.

  LastChip 00:04 05 Aug 2012

Does winning matter? Absolutely!

No one ever remembers who came second and it's the same in life.

Get over it, go out and win; but do it fairly.

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