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Who will you blame for a no-deal Brexit?

  Quickbeam 17:47 23 Jul 2018
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Hunt seems convinced that we'll all blame the EU.

Personally I'll lay the blame at the feet of weak government and wobbly opposition...

I think that there would be no doubt that in that scenario, the present government would certainly be the fall guy at the next election.

  Quickbeam 06:27 31 Jul 2018

oresome "Perhaps the original question could be turned on it's head. Who should we thank for getting us out of the EU?"

The caveat of the question is in the event of a 'no deal', I can't imagine 5 years after an acrimonious no deal Brexit anybody will be thanking anyone for that!

Even those that keep still espouse the 'Leave now!', pay 'em nothing!', 'tell 'em where to stick it!' philosophy, were the ones that were telling us that 'They'll still want us to buy their BMWs', with the gleeful inference that we'll carry on trading as normal with no walkaway penalties...

Actually leaving with no deal, and at best having very sour trade relations with our nearest current trading bloc for years to come isn't going to be a cause for thanking anyone for the UK.

  Quickbeam 06:28 31 Jul 2018

oresome "Perhaps the original question could be turned on it's head. Who should we thank for getting us out of the EU?"

The caveat of the question is in the event of a 'no deal', I can't imagine 5 years after an acrimonious no deal Brexit anybody will be thanking anyone for that!

Even those that keep still espouse the 'Leave now!', pay 'em nothing!', 'tell 'em where to stick it!' philosophy, were the ones that were telling us that 'They'll still want us to buy their BMWs', with the gleeful inference that we'll carry on trading as normal with no walkaway penalties...

Actually leaving with no deal, and at best having very sour trade relations with our nearest current trading bloc for years to come isn't going to be a cause for thanking anyone for the UK.

  Quickbeam 07:13 31 Jul 2018

Considering that statements like these which assured at lot of the population that we were voting for a trade Utopia, there are going to be a lot of disenchanted voters at the next election post Brexit.

Trade with the EU will not be harmed. “Our trade will almost certainly continue with the EU on similar to current circumstances…The reality is that the hard-headed, pragmatic businessmen on the continent will do everything to ensure that trade with Britain continues uninterrupted.” David Davis, speech, 26 May 2016

“The EU’s supporters say ‘we must have access to the Single Market’. Britain will have access to the Single Market after we vote leave”. Vote Leave, What Happens When We Vote Leave?

“there will continue to be free trade, and access to the single market”, Boris Johnson, The Telegraph, 26 June 2016

"It should be win-win for us and it will be if we vote to leave and we can maintain free trade, stop sending money and also have control of our borders", Michael Gove, BBC, 8 May 2016

“The idea that our trade will suffer…is silly”, Vote Leave, What Happens When We Vote Leave

  Quickbeam 08:21 03 Sep 2018

It looks like Boris is doing a bit of general rabble rousing and leadership posturing this week in expectation of an unacceptable Brexit compromise, he'll be blaming May!

Nothing to do with the bus promises etc, eh' Boris...?

  LastChip 08:57 03 Sep 2018

He may be, but he's right. The EU have given nothing and we're just caving in at every turn.

Mrs May may be a trier, but she's weak. We need someone far stronger.

  Pine Man 10:40 03 Sep 2018

Mrs May may be a trier, but she's weak. We need someone far stronger.

It doesn't matter how strong our leader is as we have got absolutely nothing to negotiate with.

David Davies has just suggested, words to the effect, that the Chequers deal is as bad, if not worse than staying in the EU. Now there's food for thought ;-)

  wee eddie 10:48 03 Sep 2018

The EU does not want us to leave. If we do leave the EU wants it to be so painful that no one else ever tries to leave again.

I voted to leave. I understood this when I voted. The UK has become flabby. This may be the only way that we can stop the malaise. The EU has been like a "Comfort Blanket" for 20 of the last 40 years.

  LastChip 10:48 03 Sep 2018

"It doesn't matter how strong our leader is as we have got absolutely nothing to negotiate with."

Oh yes we have - our import market. It's not just about exporting to the EU, it's also about importing from the EU and the trade they would loose in the event of a no deal.

  Pine Man 11:55 03 Sep 2018

Oh yes we have

It all depends on who you believe. Only time will tell...and then it probably won't!

  Govan1x 11:55 03 Sep 2018

[Mrs May may be a trier, but she's weak. We need someone far stronger.

Now David Cameron fits that bill. Yes the same one who gave us a vote on Brexit.

So weak or Wobley or someone stronger does not make the least bit of difference.

The EU wants us to change the way we run our borders. Yet they do not come up with and offer that is agreeable to both sides.

So a no deal seems to be the only choice.

We have had our choice and voted to leave. We have the we want in the we want out and shake it all about brigades. can you imagine the chaos this could cause in the next few years. Get out now and lets get on with it.

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