W Mids Police Force - takes the biscuit ???

  AroundAgain 18:36 04 May 2011
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It seems West Mids Police Force, in response to government cuts, have forced experienced police to retire, then they have been sent letter asking them if they would return to work as volunteers, supposedly in their previous role. Ha!

This has to be taking the biscuit, eh???

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-13282047

(Sorry, can't work out how to place a link just now - will work in it ...)

  Bald Eagle 18:55 04 May 2011

I lost my chemist's job in a Power station due to Maggie's privatisation. So many chemists took the money and ran there was no experienced ones left. I then returned as a part time advisor at more money than before. The last one I did was at £80 an hour!!

  AroundAgain 19:03 04 May 2011

Well, I have to admit that does make it sound a bit more attractive. However, it does sound rather a cheek - to force retirement, then hope you'll come back to work without pay. Presumably, many of these folks will be able to persue good earning power anyway, as they will still be good for many years yet, even though it is difficult getting employment when 'mature'.

As always, there are many perpectives to a situation. Be interesting to hear of them.

BaldEagle - sounds like you are very enterprising and came out on top! Well done!!!

The biscuit - being to get the workforce back without pay. Has to be a good cost effective method.

  Noldi 19:24 04 May 2011

It seems they have cut the wage bill to come in line with the government financial cuts but want the specials to help them meet government crime solving figures.

Noldi

  spuds 23:25 04 May 2011

When a previous long term police officers retire on a pension (possibly at 50 years old), quite a number were offered or returned in civilian roles with the appropriate wage being paid for the civilian job that they take on. Due to government restrictions, a large number of these jobs are no longer on offer or available.

I mentioned 'previous long term' because rules of employment and pension rights have now changed or are going to 'under reviews'. Even leaving now under 'ill health' classifications as its restrictions and is no longer an easy get-out option, both for the force or the individual.

Even forensics are in serious trouble with budget balancing, and it is now proposed that this work might (going through parliament at present)be 'contracted out' completely to private enterprise.

With regards to Special Constables, this is still classed as a few hours per week or month, mainly on a voluntary basis. Even expenses, benefits or allowances have been cut, which as resulted in lack of public response in perhaps doing a public duty. Training of a Special doesn't come cheap, especially if the recruit leaves within a short time, so utilising an ex-police officer might sound like a good financial proposition for a police force to adopt?.

Whether this (not so new) idea will take off or whether the ex-police officer will feel offended, then only time will tell. Some retired police officer's might want to stick to the old ways of having one of the many jobs available to ex-police officer's with a nice steady wage, and further pension rights!.

  Graham. 23:30 04 May 2011

Around Again, it really is easy to post a link once the penny drops. Your link

  oresome 08:57 05 May 2011

With a drop in income affecting many people, including those already at the bottom of the pile in receipt of reduced social security payments, it's perhaps to be expected that there will be an increase in crime.

Couple this with an increase in social unrest as redundancies and the drop in living standards start to bite and you wonder if we actually need more police, not less.

That's not to say that the police should be immune from efficiency savings and be striving for greater productivity.

  spuds 19:33 05 May 2011

oresome

Blunkett thought he had the answer to all that, when he brought out PCSO's?.

When they were first introduced there was a big financial incentive offered to police forces. Now perhaps no longer?.

  spuds 13:06 06 May 2011

Why are some people trying to make this subject a new issue, because isn't, and any time served police officer might tell you this. Some ex-police officer's never took up, and possibly never would, a possible option of becoming a 'special' because it was perhaps classed as a lower status position with no pay, but with the hassle. Would you fancy being in the rank of long-term constable or inspector, and then lowering your status in life?.

The people who may have taken up the option, were usually invited to do so, as a 'specials' section leader or commander, with an higher status administration level. There was also the particular police force policy, depending on where located, when certain terms and regulations forbid 'certain civilians' and people involved (past-present) with police work becoming 'special constable'.

Its a bit like one of our young local area commanders telling the public recently that due to warm weather, his police officers will be knocking doors in the early hours of the morning, if the officer's find windows and doors unlocked or property insecure. This is a 'new' exercise in an area of the city to cut out the recent increase in house burglary. I seem to recall that 'door trying' and waking up occupants of premises was a once regular police activity, and certainly not a 21st century masterpiece that some young inspector as thought out?.

Its a bit like Neighbourhood Watch and similar type schemes. Some police forces or officer's were in favour, when others were not. And I would suspect that most of the thoughts were perhaps based on delegation of powers?.

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