Dave_Dave, Do we know each other? And is the guy with the Packard Bell pc called NS? It's funny but I was just gonna post about the very same thing. A guy in the helproom forum is asking for advice on buying a new pc. And my number one rule is - get a proper restore disc which includes all software preloaded on the machine - then you can restore to "out of box" condition anytime you want. When I bought my last pc I went first to my local pc shop (I think Dave_Dave knows who I am talking about) and said that a full recovery cd was an absolute must. The reaction was a vague stare accompanied by a lot of shuffling and the answer was no. Too much trouble? I never found out. I went to Staples instead. And that got me thinking. When you buy your next car (let's say you want a top quality small hatchback) are you going to buy a Ford/Renault/Peugeot for 12 grand or are you going to give 10 grand to 2 blokes in a shop round the corner who say that they will build you one.....Anyway, back on subject, yes - recovery partitions are AN ABSOLUTE JOKE and I would like to see pcadvisor get their teeth into this one.