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With one day to go before the EU referendum

  Forum Editor 10:15 16 Apr 2016
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I'm wondering if you have decided which way you'll be voting.

I'm not asking you to disclose which way you'll vote, although you're welcome to do so, if you wish. What I'm interested in is whether or not you have made up your mind, or whether you're undecided.

If you are still not sure, have you found that any information you've seen or heard has been helpful, or do you instinctively dismiss most of it as part of the inevitable posturing of those politicians and business leaders who have vested interests in the UK either staying in the EU or exiting?

It would be good if we can avoid diatribes against the government and/or EU mandarins - we've seen more than enough of that already. Your personal feelings about how you set about deciding are what I'm after, rather than your political leanings.

My own situation is that I'm wavering. I thought I knew exactly what we should do, but over the past few weeks I've been doing a lot of thinking, and now I readily admit to not yet being 100% certain about how I'll vote.

  hssutton 14:02 21 Apr 2016

I've just been looking at various sites regarding the amount of money we effectively give away and at migration figures, the following is what I find.

Migration Watch UK 10 Key Points on Mass Immigration • The current scale of migration to the UK, 330,000 a year, of which roughly half is from the EU, is completely unsustainable. • As a result our population is projected to rise by half a million every year – the equivalent of a city the size of Liverpool. • England is already twice as crowded as Germany and 3.5 times as crowded as France. • Population growth adds to the pressures on public services when public spending is • being reduced. •
And then we see the money this country is giving away • Foreign aid £16 billion • Trade deficit with the EU £23.6 billion • Cost to EU £8.5 billion.

If these figures are to be believed, then migration is having a very serious effect on our way of life. Not to mention NHS in total chaos along with the school system

  Forum Editor 17:51 21 Apr 2016

At the moment, the ipsos MORI political monitor research returns for April (based on interviewing a representative sample of voters) shows that the nation is most likely to vote to remain in the EU. When the 'undecided' people were asked which way they think they are most likely to vote, there was an increase in both the 'leave' and 'stay' totals, but not enough to make 'Leave' win the referendum.

It's close, but if there was a referendum tomorrow we would probably vote to stay in by a margin of between 5% and 10%.

The most important issue in the minds of the electorate is, according to the survey, the economy followed by immigration.

That indicates to me that my fellow citizens are getting their priorities right. Immigration - as I said in an earlier post - is not as important to us as the economy when it comes to making a decision.

I am still undecided.

  x123 19:21 21 Apr 2016

We, as a family, have discussed the issue and at the moment are fairly sure which way we will vote. We will still keep an open mind to the in and out campaigns right upto polling day.

  morddwyd 19:22 21 Apr 2016

"We haven't all necessarily got 15/20 years to wait for the good times!"

Agree with Lastchip. At 78 I doubt if I have, but I'm not selfish enough to only consider how it mat affect me, but also how it may affect my fellow citizens, some unborn, and the country as a whole.

To quote JFK "...........ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

  hssutton 19:54 21 Apr 2016

morddwyd. At the age eighty I'm in total agreement. At the moment we (the country) are £1.5 trillion in debt and rising by the second and we still give away in the region of £40 billion if you include the balance of trade with the EU. Mainly due to the greed of the present population who only think of today and our profligate politicians who like to throw our money away, or I should say the money we borrow.

  hssutton 20:02 21 Apr 2016

Whoops hit the enter key in a hurry. I must say that I know of only one who will be voting to remain. When I asked her the question why, her answer was "because that's what the government are telling us to do" -(

  Quickbeam 21:11 21 Apr 2016

LastChip/morddwyd: Selfish...?

Well that's why we all have made a decision one way or the other isn't it! And you're assuming that I think it right to leave, but will vote to stay in for that reason. It's only one, but a major one reason of many for me to stay in.

All the leave argument I've come across so far is no more than hopeful thinking. If a good reason backed up by sound and well reasoned argument to leave was presented, I would consider it.

  Quickbeam 21:17 21 Apr 2016

FE "I am still undecided."

You've asked our opinions, so can we have yours? You are now repeatedly saying that you're undecided? Yet for the last two years you've been stating as fact that it would be economic disaster to leave the umbrella of the EU!

  Quickbeam 21:37 21 Apr 2016

It's hard to take any out argument seriously when this is the sort of reasoning that I'm being given to follow the herd out...

Unacceptable out slogan.

  hssutton 21:43 21 Apr 2016

Quickbeam. I'm rather curious as to what the remain team have said that convinced you, as all I've heard is what might happen and the fear they are trying instill into everyone. To my mind it's mainly all guesswork from both sides, no one can be quite sure what will happen either way and with the thinking of the remainers all I can say it's a good job they were not around in 1940.

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