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Munich - A City for Appeasers?

  flycatcher1 19:24 07 Feb 2015

In 1938 an Agreement was signed in Munich to enable a Dictator to annex various lands which had a sizeable German speaking population. It was appeasement pure and simple and strengthened Hitler's determination to expand.

In 2015 there is a Nato Conference in Munich and some European Leaders are visiting Moscow to meet another Dictator. Another appeasement is on the cards.

Surely the world should know that Dictators can only be controlled by strength and not weakness. At least in the Thirties we decided to re-arm, not very popular in some places, but now we are reducing our Forces.

It has been suggested that the Royal Marines and the Parachute Regiment should be changed and even combined surely we should be strengthening the sharp end of our Military not reducing them. Of course we will have two big ships - both painted white with a trunk and ears fitted very little use in Europe.

  bumpkin 22:35 07 Feb 2015

The Japs blew up Pearl Harbour no doubt reveling in their success and saying "see what they do about that" The answer was forthcoming.

  bremner 08:52 08 Feb 2015

Georgia and South Ossetia

And I raise you Grenada, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and now Syria

  Forum Editor 22:12 08 Feb 2015

"....some European Leaders are visiting Moscow to meet another Dictator."

Who is that, then?

Some of you are being just a tad over-dramatic I think. All this talk of a beckoning abyss; for goodness sake, get a grip. We are a million miles from that.

  Devil Fish 00:19 09 Feb 2015

Putin in playing a game of chess so to speak

1 he knows that countries that have an ongoing conflict cannot join NATO 2 he wants a land corridor to the Crimea

He will push the buttons accordingly without entering into an all out war with the west that he cant win

  Quickbeam 08:50 09 Feb 2015

I predict peace in our time.

  flycatcher1 10:03 09 Feb 2015

FE Are you really stating that Putin is not a Dictator ? He appears to have complete control over Russia. The situation is very well covered by Field Marshal Lord Bramall in a letter to the Times this morning. There is also a nice collection of contrary views.

I have just finished reading Serhii Plokhy's book " The Last Empire" which details the Final Days of the Soviet Union. A good read for anyone interested in history. Putin, a Lt.Colonel in the KGB hedged his bets to end up on the winning side and has gone from strength to strength since then.

To trail another coat how is it that an Island Nation has no Maritime Aircraft and insufficient warships to look after our interests ?

  bumpkin 15:46 09 Feb 2015

Possibly related to our spending on Trident, instead; the deterrent that can never be used, anyway??

What all that money and it's broken.

  john bunyan 16:32 09 Feb 2015

We (UK) spend 2.2 % of GDP on defence; The USA 3.8 and Russia 4.2%. Pakistan spends 3.5 %. Admittedly our spend is higher than some of our EU partners, but about the same as France. Many years ago, in the '50's and '60's it was at 5%, so no wonder we have a sadly depleted R Navy, and indeed all arms. Those who want to cut even further should contemplate history more carefully to avoid another "Munich".

Putin has skilfully alternated between Prime Minister and President whilst retaining control in either role. Up to now , whether we like it or not, he is very popular in Russia - whether this lasts following sanctions and the drop in oil prices remains to be seen.

World Defence spending

  Quickbeam 09:13 10 Feb 2015

Why would the drop in oil prices strengthen him? Wasn't it the massive drop in oil prices that brought about the collapse of the iron curtain under Gorbachev?

  john bunyan 11:02 10 Feb 2015


If you re - read my last sentence you will see that I implied that Putin's popularity may well suffer with lower oil prices and sanctions - not that it would strengthen him!

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