More money for health care in the UK

  spuds 11:23 14 Nov 2014

It seems rather quiet again on the forum,so possibly a subject that involves us all might liven things up.

It would seem that the suggestion of using pharmacies more, is a thought in the governments head to take off the strain of the NHS. Its even suggested that £25 million being spent for wider access to a GP is also on the cards.

I am one of those who use the NHS more frequently nowadays, and in all fairness it seems to cope, but perhaps not like it should in some areas.

When GP's received extra funding, we the public were told that all kinds of improvements were going to be made, including practices taking on minor operations and being more accessible. With my own GP practice, they have just merged with another practice, adding further GP's on the staff roll. Yet while this particular practice is still taking on new patient's, they are constantly moving the boundaries further apart in making it easier for booking appointments suitable for all.

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  john bunyan 11:45 14 Nov 2014

Like you I have been a greater "customer" of the NHS recently than for my first 75 years. Of course the demands on the NHS are never ending, and with the aging surviving population, an influx of migrants wit no history of contributing, better and more expensive treatments and drugs it is little wonder budgets are tight. Some of the strain on the NHS is, I am sure, due to patients who are too ready to rush with minor issues to a doctor or hospital. I, for one , would be in favour of "drunks" attending A&E being treated free for the first visit, but paying thereafter. Also a big tightening up on ensuring visitors and recent migrants to the UK have to pay via their own insurance. I see no reason why , for repeat medicine where symptoms are unchanged, why pharmacists should not be allowed to prescribe.

However the situation right now is pretty critical and as a "one off" to clear the decks I would be in favour of the recent £1 billion fine on the banks - an unexpected receipt - to be used to boost the NHS.

  spuds 12:03 14 Nov 2014

John Bunyan, I agree with what you say, but fining banks or even some other utilities like train services, seems to end up with the public paying more. How many bank's are still in public ownership or government guidance, yet I am of the opinion that the bank's have made very few changes on how they treat the public. The same applies with private enterprise on the railways, and how one monute they are fined, and the next claiming public subsidies.

Perhaps coming back to the role of GP's. In my area there are plan's for giving GP's bonus payments, so as to encourage young GP's to enter that profession instead of going to specialist roles. Then there's the situation of more GP's or other similar professional people who are working part-time. Again, taking the practice I have used for many years, not one doctor works a full 5 day week. And it appears even worse with female GP's who are running a home life along their occupation of that of a GP. Even my own dental practice seems to run on this same principle of being run by part-timer's nowadays. Yet all I seem to hear is the reasons for this is due to the stress of the job. Which makes me wonder how some of the older doctor's managed to cope, and the hours they worked.

  bumpkin 17:56 14 Nov 2014

Typed a long reply and it vanished, what is wrong with this site.

  morddwyd 19:57 14 Nov 2014

Been using pharmacies, as Minor Aliment Centres, up here for years.

They don't just fill prescriptions, but can write their own.

  spuds 11:16 15 Nov 2014

I would think that charging people for medical attention for being drunk or high on drugs, is certainly a way forward. The same might apply to those very same people who are provided with a police cell or a volunteer funded treatment and rescue scheme. But will that ever happen, when the loss of taxation revenue might occur, that the drink industry provides, if certain people cut down on their drinking habits.

I'll tick this now, if anyone wants to add further, then please do.

  BillSers 11:20 15 Nov 2014

I can recall when New Labour were electioneering to get Blair in government big posters at Vauxhall spouted they were going to inject billions into the NHS. I'm not sure they did but they did put Frank Dobson in charge and not much happened.

  Aitchbee 20:31 15 Nov 2014

Charging drunks could be a step in the right direction though.

Don't forget smokers also ... who needlessly damage their health and also 'bump up' the government's welcome tax coffers. [Pun intended]

PS. My sister, who neither drinks alcohol or smokes anything, told me has to wait 2 weeks [that's the earliest available to see her GP] for an appointment.

  Forum Editor 13:21 16 Nov 2014


"I would think that charging people for medical attention for being drunk or high on drugs, is certainly a way forward."

Perhaps you would like to charge people who are ill as a result of eating too much, or people who have sexually transmitted diseases. Then there are those who rashly go abroad on holiday, and come back with Malaria, or some other tropical disease - let's charge them for their medical treatment.

Everyone who is injured because they were driving too fast - they'll have to pay, as will all those people who would insist on playing sports, and turn up at hospital with all kinds of injuries.

Those kids who go to NHS dentists with tooth decay because they eat too many sweets - let's penalise their parents with extra charges as well.

You don't always think things through before posting, do you?

  spuds 14:45 16 Nov 2014

You don't always think things through before posting, do you?

Obviously, your thinking through and my thinking through are bridges apart Forum Editor, and always will be.

Perhaps on this occasion, you should have read the posts more fully, then you would have had the opportunity to also directed your comments to other member's who seem to have similar views and opinions to mine regarding drunks.

  carver 14:56 16 Nov 2014

F.E totally agree with you, I wonder what some people would say if being admitted to hospital were told that their BMI was over 24.9 therefore they have to pay for treatment, or how about me having stopped smoking 3 years ago would I only have to pay 50% of treatment cost.

Just what would be classed as drunk, just more than driving limit, just under driving limit, or the same as me the other week when I had 2 pints and tripped over a loose kerbing.

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