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  woodchip 21:36 03 Feb 2013

So much for Bill Gates and the Rich.

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  Forum Editor 23:38 03 Feb 2013

"So much for Bill Gates and the Rich"

So, you've thought this through yourself have you, and come to the conclusion that the conspiracy theorists - to whom this is the stuff of their dreams - are right? Bill Gates genuinely wants to use the sinister means described in some of the articles in your Google link to sterilise people, and to kill children by vaccination.

I'm astonished that there are people who actually believe the rubbish that's spouted by writers who can't see further than their own warped prejudices.

Populations have historically increased in countries where vaccination has been introduced, because fewer people died in early life from the common killer diseases of childhood. A growing population isn't the whole story however. What really acts to control world populations over a longer timescale is the live birth rate - the number of babies that are born, and the average world birth rate is declining. If the death rate stays broadly steady, and birth rates continue to decline, the world population will fall in the long term, and in Europe it's happening now - UN predictions show the population of Europe falling by over 100 million by 2050 and by over 200 million by 2150.

The problem is that the fall in birth rates is not evenly spread across world regions - it remains high in the developing countries, and apart from cultural reasons the main cause is a high rate of infant mortality - large numbers of children die, so people try to buffer the effect by having more of them.

Vaccination of children works to reduce the birth rate because it relieves mothers from a good deal of the burden of worry that their children will die in infancy. Add improved education and you empower women; they take more control of what happens to them - they want a better standard of living, and left to themselves they will practice contraception, and birth rates will fall.

Bill Gates knows this, but of course there is no lack of people only too ready to see a sinister motive in what he says. He exposed himself to criticism when he made the vaccination remark, and the genie is out of the bottle - the conspiracy people can have a field day.

  Quickbeam 09:34 04 Feb 2013

When is the movie due to be released?

  Forum Editor 12:17 04 Feb 2013

"If something is said often enough or loud enough,some people will believe it."

Which is precisely what happens, and has happened, with the rubbish being written about the Bill Gates Foundation vaccination programme.

  Al94 13:12 04 Feb 2013

Which is precisely what happens, and has happened, with the rubbish being written about the Bill Gates Foundation vaccination programme.

The Gates Foundation is actually generously supporting The Rotary International Polio Eradication campaign.

  sunnystaines 10:09 05 Feb 2013

i no longer have the flu jabs, mainly because they seemed to be rushed out too quick without enough research and many reports of neuro problems in people.

saw the bbc winter virus doc last week at the end of the program it showed how the jabs work.

strange why many people in health service doc's and nurses will not have them.

  carver 10:31 05 Feb 2013

There's a big difference between politicians and businesses who tend to 'spin' rather than lying outright and people who claim that vaccination programmes intend to kill people.

Weapons of Mass destruction seems to come to mind, suppose that's not lying then, or we only have 45 minutes before we are doomed enter link description here

  Forum Editor 10:40 05 Feb 2013


Intelligence gathering is a precarious business, because you can never be completely sure that your source is reliable. You need to constantly make judgements about whether it's better to act on information received because of the consequences of not doing so if it turned out to be true.

The 45 minute thing came about because MI6 obtained information indirectly from a taxi driver who had overheard two Iraqi military commanders talking about Saddam's weapons.

Imagine the headlines if the government of the day said nothing and weapons of mass destruction had been used

"Hundreds if thousands killed. Government knew of the danger, but did nothing. 'We couldn't be sure the information was reliable' said a government spokesperson"

  woodchip 11:59 05 Feb 2013


So what you are saying in your last post, is Bill Gates and cronies could be true or could be false, so who do we listen to

  carver 12:10 05 Feb 2013

So what we should have said is that a *taxi driver * overheard Bill Gates talking about Vaccines Are Used for Human Depopulation

  woodchip 14:27 05 Feb 2013

If you play some of the videos you will hear him talking about how much CO2 a Person Creates. what he does not take into account, as he as blinkers on is that it is the West mainly America and China that is bringing this about, not third world Countries. And greedy people like him that's the problem. Thankfully just like Hitler he will be no more in a few years, and he cannot stop that or take is money with him

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