Jobs online - take it ...or lose your benefits ... ultimatum from Ian Duncan Smith.

  Aitchbee 14:32 20 Dec 2012

Ian Duncan Smith is rolling out his online-strategy in the new year to get benefit claimants back to work.

Will it work. Sorry no links at the moment.

  Aitchbee 14:44 20 Dec 2012
  QuietPerson 15:06 20 Dec 2012

We have to get the welfare bill down. Currently we are the best place in the world for the work shy. All those unemployed for more than three months report to the job centre mon morn for work. We have some of the dirtiest streets etc in the civilised world. Divide the money they get by min wage and that's how many hours they have to work. The genuine people will be glad to meet others and it will encourage people to look for better jobs. Who will manage them - the existing people who are struggling to do the jobs currently. Example - Street cleaners - give them two unemployed each and details from their current foreman of the extra work to be done. We already pay for work but they sit at home and make the willing worker pay for them . We need urgent change.

  Mr Mistoffelees 15:28 20 Dec 2012

So all people, unemployed for more than 3 months, are work shy? Try telling all those unemployed who are struggling to find work, applying for jobs every week, that they are lazy and work shy.

Most unemployed people want to work and earn more money. Making them clean the streets, or do other dirty jobs, for a pittance, won't help them and won't help those people who lose their jobs because they are no longer needed.

  lotvic 15:52 20 Dec 2012

It would seem fair to me for anyone claiming JSA to do the appropriate number of hours work pro rata to the usual wage paid for that job. I find the reference to 'dirty jobs' a little disconcerting as it seems a trifle snobbish and is disrespectful to those already employed full time.

  cruiser2 16:24 20 Dec 2012

My son was made redundant in 2011. He has managed to get some work on a temporary basis. Had a phone call yesterday to say he had been for another interview and he may be offered another six month contract with the possibility of becoming full time. Only snag is it is in Hinkley and he lives in Kent. One job he applied for said he was over qualified. So not all the unemployed want to stay at home.

  Joseph Kerr 16:38 20 Dec 2012

Same ol' easy target stuff.

  caccy 17:18 20 Dec 2012

And, if you don't have internet access what then?

  Aitchbee 17:27 20 Dec 2012

.you'll 'ave to come up with a better excuse than that.

  spuds 18:31 20 Dec 2012

"And, if you don't have internet access what then?"

Which is one of things being mentioned more, that not everyone can afford or wants computers or internet access for some reason or other. Even public places with internet access are having restrictions placed on them, due to funding and cost cutting. Then there are some who fear security when using these public access places, plus suspicions of a forthcoming Big Brother state?.

I recall a few years ago, when the Post Office services where installing public use computer terminals in Post Offices, as the way forward, especially for obtaining government information. What ever happened to that idea, because it wasn't all that long, for the terminals to be removed and never seen again.

  Forum Editor 19:50 20 Dec 2012

For me one of the key facts in all this is the statement in the Telegraph piece that "most people on benefits are actively looking for jobs"

I imagine that's true, and assuming it is, that's what the benefit system is for, isn't it - to provide people who have no work with some support while they try to find a job?

I have no argument with a government that wants to ensure that public money is being spent properly, and that people who have no intention of working are weeded out and penalised in some way, but surely the main thrust of the government's efforts should be to stimulate job creation.

Sometimes I get the sinking feeling that Ministers have become obsessed with cutting expenditure instead of being obsessed with stimulating the private sector.It's the private sector which will, in the end, be the country's saviour in economic terms.

Perhaps I'm being far too naive, but I believe this apparent policy of snooping and monitoring, and dragging every ounce of flesh from us all is going to weaken our morale to the point where we'll lose our will to fight.

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