The intelligence of senior management

  bumpkin 19:35 18 Jun 2018
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Let me pose you this one. My son and his colleague are air conditioning installers, they work in London. The job is behind schedule and they are desperate to get it finished on time asking people to do overtime as they can’t get the right labour. They were both working on the ninth floor scaffolding, all netted up as required.

Big boss turns up and says they should be wearing wristbands attached to their tools in case they are dropped and bounce over the netting. OK, I can accept that on a health and safety issue but instead of asking them to use them he sent them home at lunch time as punishment, meaning half a days pay lost. They could not give a toss, nice sunny afternoon off and no point in doing Sat morning now as it will be basic rate. Who is the loser at the end of the day .

  morddwyd 19:08 23 Jun 2018

Fire risk assessment tends to be a bit more specialised particularly when you are looking at hi-flam situations like petro-chemical complexes, or munitions dumps.

To give a simple example, ask someone the "likely outcome" of a fire and 90% will say death.

It isn't, of course, but cuts and bruises and distress as people get out of the building.

One of the hairiest moments of a blameless life was standing under a ten litres per second drencher at 2.00 am on a February morning (I was in my PJs with a raincoat over the top, for Heaven's sake!)trying to undo the multiple locks of a nuclear storage facility while the fire alarm was ringing itself off the wall!

I don't think pneumonia had bee considered as a possible outcome!

  KEITH 1955 11:18 24 Jun 2018

several points to pick up on here , Saturdays on flat rate is only legal if like a supermarket you rotate your days off so it could be argued Saturday is a normal day and not classed as a weekend.

health and safety , unless it is written into the contract to use tool restrains the workers may not realise the implications of dropping something from high up.

on something called "risk assessment" it is the responsibility of a companies safety officer to asses how somebody can have or cause an accident and it is then up to that person to issue what is required . this applies to factories as well as outdoor type work.

BTW have you noticed the large signs that now get put up on new and derelict sites.

one item is a definite no no in my book , quote... " PARENTS PLEASE NOTE IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE YOUR CHILDREN DO NOT ENTER THIS SITE"

that cant be write can it , as a youngster I had adventures in all sorts of places where I probably should not have gone in , how could somebody blame my dad if I had come a cropper , he would not even have known I was up to no good.

  bumpkin 20:13 24 Jun 2018

* Saturdays on flat rate is only legal if like *

As I understand it anything over your agreed normal working hours is overtime at a higher rate but you have to do your normal hours first. You can't have thursday and Friday off and expect to be paid overtime rates if you do Sat and Sun to make up the time.

  morddwyd 22:03 24 Jun 2018

on something called "risk assessment" it is the responsibility of a companies safety officer to asses how somebody can have or cause an accident and it is then up to that person to issue what is required

Not strictly true. Under both Sections Two and Three it is ultimately the board which is responsible, "vicarious liability", in daily practice the supervisor or line manager is responsible: the Safety Officer is there to advise, but he/she cannot have the skills required to assess all risks.

My first HSO job was on an RAF base. At any one time I, and any other RAF Safty Officer, was responsible for retail operations, primary school, petrol dumps, explosives dumps,transport yards, light railway railway, three cookhouses half a dozen bars, medical facilities, sports grounds and gymnasia, firing ranges, and the small matter of some quite codex engineering operations and young people travelling at 1,000 mph plus!

My last job was in an FE with a throughput of 22000 students a week doing everytho from plasma welding to hairdressin

One person cannot possibly know all the risks, only local specialists on the ground can do that.

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