Homophobic post perhaps

  Al94 20:12 17 Dec 2012

Ok, I know I'm probably asking for trouble here but something I saw yesterday that really irritated both my wife and myself.

Sir Ian McKellen (an actor who I usually have respect for) was interviewed on the Andrew Marr show yesterday morning. I didn't see the entire interview but we were both incredulous at the part where he said he was off to Edinburgh to visit and talk to schools to promote homosexuality and affirm the ideal that it was ok to be gay. He said school children's jaws usually dropped when they heard that it was once possible to be jailed for being in love with someone of the same sex.

As a parent (albeit of offspring now old enough to make their own minds up) I would have been incensed if I thought that sort of message was being sent out to my family in our schools. It is bad enough that so many children's tv programmes portray this as a totally normal alternative.

I don't consider myself to be homophobic, I am opposed to gay marriage per se as I believe marriage should be reserved for the traditional male/female partnership but at the same time I know several gay people and don't have any issue with their relationships - what they do is entirely their own business. I respect them and they respect my opinion.

I just think it is entirely inappropriate that our young people from an early age appear to be having the message thrust on them that this is an entirely open acceptable norm.

Am I wrong?

  woodchip 22:59 17 Dec 2012

You cannot change your colour but, but homosexuality is learned

  Al94 23:18 17 Dec 2012

Many might disagree that homosexuality is learned but I think there is some logic in that argument. My concern is that more young people might be tempted to experiment because of the strong message they are being given that it is "ok"

  Forum Editor 23:31 17 Dec 2012

"My concern is that more young people might be tempted to experiment because of the strong message they are being given that it is "ok"

Of course it is OK, and if you think that many young people don't experiment with their sexuality you must have led an extremely sheltered life. It's a perfectly normal part of growing up to feel an attraction to someone of the same sex at some point, and - contrary to what you seem to think -it's perfectly normal to be gay. There have been homosexuals throughout the history of mankind,and although anyone who believes that there's something inherently 'wrong' with being gay is perfectly entitled to their opinion I think it's an excellent idea for gay people to speak to adolescent school-children about it. Far too many young people go through the agony of trying to suppress their natural sexual feelings because their parents and others try to convince them that it's wrong to be a homosexual.

Your remark that "It is bad enough that so many children's tv programmes portray this as a totally normal alternative." astonishes me - of course it's a totally normal alternative.

  pavvi 01:00 18 Dec 2012

You say 'promote homosexuality' as if he was out to convince people to be homosexual. I'm not physiologist, but I sat in a Church of England discussion group about a paper called "Issues in human sexuality" and I was saddened by the number of of homosexuals who said they were looking to be 'cured' from their 'illness'. Homosexuality is not something that people 'suffer' from, it is something they are. Sir Ian is not going to force people to become homosexual - he is merely trying to get rid of the stigma.

  pavvi 01:24 18 Dec 2012

Is there any such thing that can be objectively called normal? I don't believe there is, as what is considered normal is subjective.

  Joseph Kerr 01:30 18 Dec 2012

I just don't have the words for some folk.

  Forum Editor 09:28 18 Dec 2012


Homosexuality is a normal aspect of the human condition. There have been huge numbers of homosexuals throughout history, but in the past they were commonly persecuted.

Being a homosexual isn't something you choose, and it certainly isn't 'wrong'.

  Forum Editor 09:30 18 Dec 2012


"...but homosexuality is learned"

What a ridiculous, misinformed statement.

  Al94 09:57 18 Dec 2012

FE, of course some young people experiment with their sexuality and no I not have an extremely sheltered life.

My point is the even more may be tempted to experiment because of the message being sent out these days. Children will emulate role models and as more and more story lines appear around homosexual characters and more "camp" presenters appear this is surely an unacceptable risk.

Visits to vulnerable young people with a view to actively promoting practises that could lead to sodomy lead me to question the motives behind such actions.

I note you state that it is perfectly normal to be gay. There is nothing normal about it. Normality is the union between the two genders - nothing else. Anything other than that is not normal - it is abnormal - some would call it perverse.

I am not "gay bashing" I accept that if that is how many want to live, it is their choice and I respect that but I am increasingly uncomfortable with the "in your face" promotion of the lifestyle that is becoming increasingly hard to avoid.

  Al94 11:22 18 Dec 2012

Yes fourm member, some would describe how gay men pleasure each other as perverse.

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