Fifa ban prompts debate over wearing poppy

  Proclaimer 14:09 09 Nov 2011

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The debate on whether wearing a poppy is a political gesture or not has been raised by a challenge by the FA and the UK government to a ban by Fifa on allowing the England football team to wear the symbol.

I never thought of the Poppy as Political or Religious before but now I am thinking it must be. To me it has been part of our heritage to wear a Poppy and I accepted that long before I fully recognised the sacrifice that went before it. I never like Politics or Religion in sport but is it really going to be offensive to wear a Poppy on a Football shirt or any other shirt for that reason?

  johndrew 14:36 09 Nov 2011

I would have thought that all nations had some remembrance for their dead; such actions are memorial with some religious content.

Perhaps if FIFA consider political affiliation unacceptable they would like to consider banning the singing/playing of national anthems and use of national flags. Yet again the incompetence and stupidity of an international sporting body is brought into the spotlight!!

  Aitchbee 15:49 09 Nov 2011

I refrain from wearing a poppy, bought for charity...I prefer to proudly wear clothes bought from my local charity shop...the money goes to a good cause.I grow my own poppies in pots.

  Belatucadrus 17:22 09 Nov 2011

"Would we be supportive if Argentina wanted to wear something to commemorate the Belgrano's crew? " Yes ! . They were service men who paid the ultimate price serving their country and the Argentines have every right to commemorate that. Fifa apparently claims the ban is partly because it could offend the Germans, the Germans say that not only are they not offended nobody from Fifa has raised the issue with them. Looks rather like Sepp Blatter getting his own back because the English dared to suggest he was corrupt in public rather than do the usual three monkeys trick.

The only argument to support the Fifa action is that it's irritated the English defence league, I find being on the same side of an argument as them profoundly depressing.

  Forum Editor 18:28 09 Nov 2011

The England team will wear the poppies.

  canarieslover 19:10 09 Nov 2011

Hope they don't pin them on the way that the poppy seller pinned mine on when I donated Saturday. Just managed to avoid crying out in agony.

  morddwyd 19:56 09 Nov 2011

Unfortunately it has now become a bit of a ritual for which you are reviled if you are not seen to be taking part.

Like many others here I have paraded before more war memorials than I care to remember (and for serving personnel there is a lot more preparation than just ensuring you are at the starting point at the right time) and on far too many occasions listened to the echoes of rifle shots across cemeteries but on the odd occasions when I have left my poppy at home I have been taken to task for "not wearing my poppy with pride".

I have never worn my poppy with pride, but only with humility because I m mstill here and they are not.

The "poppy police" are just another area where the political correctness brigade have taken over.

  Condom 22:14 10 Nov 2011

I think this whole thing is just so silly. If the Home Nations wanted to wear poppies on their shirts just do it and let FIFA do their worst. They would have a big problem arguing and proving that a poppy was against any of their rules and I'm sure half the world's nations would give them grief if they tried.

Personally I never wear a poppy but I still buy them. I have served my country in the forces but Earl Haig was one of the biggest butchers this country has ever known and years ago I made a personal decision not to wear anything which was linked to his name. I think that link may now be a thing of the past but old habits die hard.

  Forum Editor 23:04 10 Nov 2011


You're entitled to your view, and you made your point eloquently, right up to the point where you spoilt the whole thing by referring to the remembrance day poppy as "a symbol of the Islamic republic's lucrative heroin export trade."

Cynicism, or Juvenalian satire? Sometimes it's hard to tell, but in this case I'll go for cynicism.

  Forum Editor 23:17 10 Nov 2011


"Earl Haig was one of the biggest butchers this country has ever known"

I'm not here to defend Haig, or to enter into a debate about him, but in response to your rather simplistic condemnation it's worth pointing out that he was very popular at the end of the First World war, and his funeral was marked with a day of national mourning. It wasn't until much later that - with the benefit of hindsight - people began to criticise his actions.

I totally respect your right to feel as you do, however, so let's not argue about it. I don't have a view either way in any case.

  Aitchbee 22:16 13 Nov 2011

After today's remembrances...'things' ( the dead and maimed) will be forgotten by the majority of the public...for a while.

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