bbc documentary last night on TPB

  theDarkness 15:32 20 Feb 2013

I dont know how long this questionable subject will last in this forum, but I thought TPB bbc documentary was a good personal insight into the young founders lives and to an extent our current technology.

Its somewhat ironic that their supporters along with the bbc and other notable entertainment companies helped financially in its development. Whilst I can understand the founders want of a way of sharing information for free, one that could educate in theory, its too bad that the majority want to use it for entertainment-calling it TPB probably didnt help their court case, as the public would surely assume its not meant for anything else. Perhaps this case showed the anger of an industry not adapting to digital technology for selling media fast enough.

According to this documentary millions are seemingly downloading via their internet devices every second. Some schoolchildren have internet enabled mobile phones these days, and who knows what the future will bring relating to home internet usage if internet speeds increase massively in the coming years. Punishing the founders that no longer run the site on their own seems to have done nothing to bring it down. How can you stop a network run in multiple countries? Perhaps our entertainment companies will have shares one day in these websites.

  john bunyan 16:03 20 Feb 2013

I thought you were referring to Tom Parker Bowles until I looked up The Pirate Station. I had never heard of it before!!

  fourm member 16:41 20 Feb 2013

I didn't see the documentary but I saw this story, yesterday. The Pirate Bay is accusing Finnish authorities of copyright infringement after setting up a fake site to catch TPB users.

'Pot' 'Kettle' comes to mind.

  Forum Editor 18:33 20 Feb 2013

"Perhaps this case showed the anger of an industry not adapting to digital technology for selling media fast enough"

There's certainly an argument to be made that the music and film industries have been slow off the mark in appreciating the implications for their businesses of an online generation. I remember talking to a well-known recording artist about this some six years ago, and he said then that the future of music sales was in downloads -legal or otherwise.

The fact that music companies may not have adapted rapidly enough to changing circumstances is not a justification for stealing copyright material. That said, one of the basic truths about human nature is that if you tempt people enough, and make it easy enough, large numbers of them will eventually succumb.

The genie is well and truly out of the bottle as far as illegal downloading is concerned, and TPB is right up there at the top of the list when it comes to facilitating copyright theft. The question that needs answering is not so much how are copyright owners going to catch offenders, but what are the industries involved going to do in terms of coming up with a distribution model that means a) the bloke next door isn't tempted into committing a copyright breach and b)that the people who produce the music/film or whatever can make a living.

Somehow we need to arrive at a win/win solution, and we need to do it quickly. We've all been talking about this problem for far too long.

I'm available as a negotiator - reasonable hourly rates apply. In the end this will be resolved by talking, not by sending people to prison.

  Aitchbee 21:12 20 Feb 2013

I record [and listen to] many BBC radio programs the old-fashioned way to a computer hard-drive [from the radio at home] rather than 'downloading from the internet'. Am I breaking the law?

  lotvic 21:34 20 Feb 2013

I remember (still got one but it's a bit wonky now) the radios with tape recorders in and used to record songs playing on the radio.

  Aitchbee 22:14 20 Feb 2013

...past coupla' weeks has been George Orwell week on Radio4 ... topnotch!

  Quickbeam 22:19 20 Feb 2013

I can't do with 29 year old repeats...

  Forum Editor 23:35 20 Feb 2013


"Am I breaking the law?"

You're safe, as long as you don't start flogging the recordings in the pub, or playing them to an audience at £1 a head.

  theDarkness 01:46 21 Feb 2013

Tom parker bowles-haha, as far as the media coverage goes, it would seem he's arguably not the easiest technology to understand :)

I think one founder believed that the raid and case was purely politically motivated, and one major flaw against them was that it didnt help that the industry and courts were still being ruled by a past generation that didnt understand where technology was going. I dont think he was that far off the mark, as in the future im sure the major players in the industry will be allowing users to share files in an similar fashion on subscription. I cant see it going any other way. If you cant beat it, copy it. Ahem. I imagine if everyone was still recording off the radio today, at a time when copyright is in heavy debate, the cassette license would surely be in full swing right now (or should that be play).

At the moment im more interested in how we will be viewing/playing our media in future rather than obtaining it. The television, radio and computer world are merging into one with internet enabled tvs, so I wonder how long before we see the bog standard no thrills television disappear for good, and more once computer-only activities available through it.

  lotvic 02:24 21 Feb 2013

theDarkness, ref: your last paragraph. Sounds like we'll be back to 'Terminals' and 'Mainframe' when that happens :)

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