Is anyone STILL reading the Mail?

  fourm member 09:22 02 Oct 2013

Whenever the Mail gets mentioned here, there are those who say they still read it for a variety of reasons.

So I'm wondering if the latest hypocrisy is enough to change anyone's mind.

Mail distorted my biography of Ralph Miliband.

The Telegraph has even reprinted its 1994 obituary to distance itself from its usual 'right-wing newspapers' partner.

And I never thought I'd agree with Alistair Campbell.

Could this be the beginning of the end for Paul Dacre if not the Mail itself?

  rickf 09:53 02 Oct 2013

Never read the mail but it is a hypocritical and opportunistic paper. Publishing anything that suits its intention without a shred of moral/common decency. This is a paper that supported the blackshirts which it conveniently forgets.

  Al94 10:04 02 Oct 2013

Second highest circulation figures in the UK - probably safe for the time being. Says a lot about the general populace though.

  ened 10:05 02 Oct 2013

Mmmm! Are you saying they are wrong to print it? Or wrong about Ralph Milliband?

"One can but hope." They are not forcing themselves on people. I have an opinion on the plainly biased Guardian so I simply do not read it!

  fourm member 10:16 02 Oct 2013


Sadly, that may be a forlorn hope. The timing is, of course, coincidental but news of Dacre's new contract suggests the owner is happy with his lackey.


I think they were wrong in many ways.

They were wrong about Ralph Miliband because you can dislike a system without 'hating' the place where that system exists. The fact that Ralph Miliband chose to remain in Britain after the war rather suggests that he loved a country that enabled him to put forward views that many found disagreeable.

They were wrong to try and make Ed Miliband his father's son. The aim was clearly to bolster the 'Red Ed' epithet.

Since the initial publication they are very wrong to try and pass off the shameful past of the paper's owner in the 1930s as too long ago to matter whilst picking on something a 17-year old wrote in 1940.

  ened 10:30 02 Oct 2013

"The fact that Ralph Miliband chose to remain in Britain after the war rather suggests that he loved a country that enabled him to put forward views that many found disagreeable." Does that also apply to Abu Hamza, Anjem Choudary, the 7/7 bombers and all the other immigrants who have taken it upon themselves to abuse our hospitality?

I would suggest they want to change Britain but not because they love it!

  spuds 10:48 02 Oct 2013

At the end of the day, people choose what they want to read, see and pay for, and not for others to insist that they are very wrong in their selection.

A year or so ago, I had the option of reading quite a number of daily newspapers, if I wished to do. My neighbours and myself use to purchase a newspaper each, then do a community swap-about. This didn't make us prejudice against one particular newsprint, but did make a change for different opinions and reading styles.

If and when the fancy takes me nowadays, and I am near a newspaper stand, I usually purchase a copy of the Sun (advertised as Britain's Most Popular Paper) and 'i' (advertised as The Essential Daily Briefing) an offshoot of The Guardian, which I regard as a good informative read for 20 pence, 30 pence on Saturday.

Even my own once very local newspaper, is I believe now run by the publishers of The Mail, and I would suspect many other supposedly local newspaper's like wise, or some other multi-national?.

  Pine Man 11:31 02 Oct 2013

spider 9 'One can but hope.' Why on earth would you want the Mail to come to an end? If you don't read it it's existence is irrelevant to you surely.

A194 'Says a lot about the general populace though.' So the general populace don't support your views on the Mail - how dare they. You, in the minority, must be correct;-)

  Aitchbee 11:34 02 Oct 2013

My sister only gets the Mail on a saturday which I personally deliver when I visit her on saturday mornings 'cos she likes the TV section. I usually have a quick gander. My local pub also provides a copy of The Mail and other popular newspapers for customers to read.

PS. I have managed to collect [for free] the last 4 days' classical CD 'give-away', so far, in the Mail, but I might buy it today [only 'cos it's Mozart's Piano Concertos] and as I am not planning to ask 'Bill the Barman' to cut out the voucher for me again ... 'cos he might think I'm a skinflint ... and also 'cos he might want to cut it out for another customer who might also be a Mozart fan!

  spuds 11:40 02 Oct 2013

Aitchbee - by the time the newspaper as been purchased, the cost of the item for handling and postage, it might be cheaper to buy from Amazon for £1.27 delivered, and that might include box sets of more than one cd?.

  fourm member 11:53 02 Oct 2013

'people choose what they want to read'

If spuds read my opening post he would see that I'm interested if whether anyone has changed their mind over this incident.

Of course, those of us who think the Mail is a hypocritical piece of trash that involves people who think they know best trying to manipulate the gullible will still think that.

And those who think the Mail is the true voice of Britain will still think that.

I just wondered if anyone had seen this row and decided that it showed the Mail in such a bad light that they were going to give up reading it.

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