Analog TV's and TV license

  WhiteTruckMan 21:18 27 Jun 2011

I've got a couple of smallish old analog TV's euphamistically described as portables that are useless now that the analog tv transmitters have been turned off. For us its not really an issue because we get a uhf feed from our cable tv box but these smaller sets were used for games consoles. Now the thing is, the kids have asked if they can take them away to university to use with said consoles (N64 & gamecube) but will they need a tv license for them now that they cannot pick up broadcast tv anymore? I've tried the tv license website and all I seem to find is helpfull advice on how I can make it easier to be relieved of my money.


  Quickbeam 21:28 27 Jun 2011

As long as they can receive somewhere in the country, then I reckon that they do still need a licence.

Also they're not totally useless if you use a freeview box. Most of us have changed TVs because it's a good excuse to bet a spacesaving flatscreen and gloss over the fact that we don't need to change them.

  woodchip 21:33 27 Jun 2011

no they are they will not need one when its all gone digital

  AroundAgain 22:14 27 Jun 2011

Presuming they don't have a Freeview box and are unable to receive any broadcasts, I wouldn't have thought they needed a licence.

I wouldn't think it is relevant if the TV could receive a broadcast in another area of the county - because you're not there in the other area of the country.

That's my understanding, anyway, for what it's worth ;)

  Forum Editor 22:33 27 Jun 2011

The emphasis is on the device being capable of receiving a broadcast TV transmission. If it can do that, and it's in an area where there are suitable transmissions you (they) will need licences.

  AroundAgain 23:44 27 Jun 2011

So, if you had a TV stored in the garage, but not used (it being the only TV on the property) are you saying you need a license for it?

I understood the OP to be saying that, as an analogue TV, it wasn't able to receive the digital signal but in an area where analogue was not broadcast, would he need a license. So, by your definition, then this TV would not be capable of receiving a broadcast TV transmission.

Maybe I've just misunderstood what all the posts have said?

  Forum Editor 00:05 28 Jun 2011

So, if you had a TV stored in the garage, but not used (it being the only TV on the property) are you saying you need a license for it?

Technically yes, but you wouldn't have anyone breaking the door down to haul you off to TV prison.

An analogue TV can't receive digital transmissions, so no licence is required, but in an area where there are analogue transmission it must be licensed.

  WhiteTruckMan 00:23 28 Jun 2011

I'm not entirely sure about the freeview box argument. It seems that if all they need to recieve a tv signal is to plug in a piece of equipment ( a box) irrespective of whether they own such an item then the same can be said of an aerial. And I dont think the lack of an aerial would convince the licensing authorities. But I'm not thinking straight as I am too hot and tired to sleep, despite having an early start in the morning which I just know isnt going to go well.


  morddwyd 05:17 28 Jun 2011

Surely the criterion is installing apparatus capable of receiving tv transmissions at a given address?

In the case of a Freeview box it is the box which is the "apparatus".

An analogue box in a digital area is no more capable of receiving transmissions than a SECAM television is in PAL area.

  bremner 07:49 28 Jun 2011

My daughter is at Uni and has her HD TV and PS3 to watch Blu Ray discs. She completed the online declaration Click Here link towards the end, and does not need a licence.

  AroundAgain 23:22 29 Jun 2011

It seems quite straight forward if you read this, got from here

"Part 4 of the Communications Act 2003 makes it an offence to install or use a television receiver to watch or record any television programmes as they're being shown on television without a valid TV Licence."

In more simple terms, from here

"If you watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV you must, by law, be covered by a TV Licence, no matter what device you're using."

In case anyone is in doubt, this also is saying that live TV screening on PC, laptop, mobile phone also are subject to licensing laws.

To the OP, I would suggest, as the previous poster has suggested, getting in touch with the TV Licensing offices and explain the situation. Then you will be assured you are OK.

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