The left of the Tories and the right of Labour have found common ground as staunch Remainers. However they were all elected on their former Party’s manifestos which said the referendum result would be respected. The Hard Right of the Tories and the Momentum Left of Labour are, in effect Parties inside Parties. What I find curious is why this 11 group have not joined up with the Liberals , who are determined to frustrate the referendum result. Labour’s problem is that their leaders and policy is set by their conference, whereas the Tory PLP elect their leader
Quickbeam We will only know if there is a genuine 'spark for change' after the next General Election. If these MP's keep their seats then perhaps their party will continue but at the moment it's a wait and see situation.
This is the spark, we now need to see if it ignites over the next few weeks.
But who would ever have thought that Tory and Labour defectors would find any kind of common ground? This just demonstrates the level of alienation that the big two have developed over the last 2 years with there heads up their where the sun dunt shines!
This just demonstrates the level of alienation that the big two have developed over the last 2 years with there heads up their where the sun dunt shines!
There's been dissent in all parties as long as there's been politics, and not only in the UK. The only variation is how and where it gets reported.
Are these any different from previous defections? Aren't they more about personal egos than politics? Won't they just end up arguing amongst themselves as to who gets to sit at the head of their round table?
One of the things cited by the labour defectors is anti-semitism in the party, which appears, in the main, to be more anti Zionism/anti Israel. The snowflakes are everywhere.
'Won't they just end up arguing amongst themselves as to who gets to sit at the head of their round table?'
On this I'm in the half full glass pub, if nobody tries anything, nothing will change. Unlike Brexit which to me is based on illogical pipe dreams, British adversarial politics is in need of logical reform, and has been since Lloyd George's time.