Bradley, oops I mean Yeldarb, here is a definition:
needle in a haystack - impossible search for something relatively tiny, lost or hidden in something that is relatively enormous - the first use of this expression, and its likely origin, is by the writer Miguel de Cervantes, in his story Don Quixote de la Mancha written from 1605-1615. According to Bartlett's, the expression 'As well look for as needle in a bottle of hay' (translated from the original Spanish) appears in part III, chapter 10. 'Bottle' is an old word for a bundle of hay, taken from the French word botte, meaning bundle. Brewer (1870-94 dictionary and revisions) lists the full expression - 'looking for a needle in a bottle of hay' which tells us that the term was first used in this form, and was later adapted during the 1900's into the modern form.
Flying Teddy What an interesting answer. I have noted it well. But I heard it in relation to York Minster and surrounding trades. Unusually, the traders who set up around the minster tended to group themselves according to trade rather than mixed with others. Example :the cobblers were in one area, the bakers in another and so on. However a small needle industry was located in the same area as fodder producers. Hence " a needle in a haystack" ........... BUT . I still don't know how to archive my email folders onto external CD or DVD ! ! ! !
Thank you PaulB2005 - is this what you mean ? I am new to this medium - I thought the title bar was to identify individuals - see above I value your advice - will try out VoGs link today and will report back to you "Yeldarb"
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