Win 2000

  denali 13:47 28 Oct 2003
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Could someone be kind enough to help.
My son has two systems on his PC -win98/2000-.
No problems with either but we would really like to get rid of 2000, it is just taking up space and is never used.
Is it possible to remove it without formatting?.
We really do not want to do that.

Many thanks

Denali

  Taran 17:31 28 Oct 2003

Yes, it is possible.

How is the system set up ?

Is it set with a boot loader that gives him the option of which operating system he would like to boot into ?

Is the main drive partitioned with Windows 98 and Windows 2000 on separate partitions, or was Windows 2000 installed as a parallel install alongside Windows 98 on the same drive and partition ?

If you can give some more detail one of us will walk you through some options.

Regards

Taran

  denali 20:28 28 Oct 2003

Hi Taran. Thank you for your response.
I am far from being an expert, but here goes.
98 was installed first. 2000 was installed to a seperate partition per installation instructions.
The boot loader does give an option on which system to load.
Hope this is sufficient info. Neither of us knows much else


Denali

  temp003 10:31 29 Oct 2003

In that case, your 98 is on the C partition, and Windows 2000 on a subsequent partition.

Have you got a 98 boot floppy? If not, go into 98, click Start, Settings, Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs. select the Startup Disk tab, insert a floppy disk, and click Create Disk.

After the floppy is created, leave it in, and restart computer.

The computer should boot from the floppy. When you get to the Windows 98 Startup Menu (I think with 3 choices), choose Start computer without CDROM support.

If you don't see the 98 Startup Menu, and the computer gives you the familiar choice between 98 and windows 2000, then the computer is booting from the hard disk. Restart computer with floppy still inserted, and as soon as restarts, press the right button (usually the Delete key, but it can be other buttons such as F1 or others) to go into BIOS settings, and change the boot sequence so that the floppy drive is the first boot device. Save settings and exit BIOS, and let the computer boot from the floppy.

After boting up from the floppy, you should get to the A:\> prompt.

Then type:

sys c:

and press Enter (there's one space after sys).

You should see a message "system transferred".

Remove floppy. Press Ctrl-Alt-Del to restart computer.

It should now boot straight into 98, with no operating system options menu.

Once in 98, you can delete the following files immediately under the C drive in My Computer: ntldr, ntdetect.com, boot.ini, pagefile.sys

You can also reformat the partition on which Windows 2000 is installed.

  temp003 10:34 29 Oct 2003

Perhaps I should also mention, before you take the above steps (especially before formatting the Windows 2000 partition), back up any files you want to keep from that partition first.

After transferring the system back to 98, there's one more file you can delete under C, which is C:\bootsect.dos

  wizzy 10:35 29 Oct 2003

Try this, format the partition with Windows 2000 on then delete the boot.ini file on the Windows 98 partition.

The easyest way to do this is to create a boot disk in Windows 98, restart the computer with the disk in, load the boot disk without CD-ROM support (you don't need it.) When A:\ comes up enter 'format X:' replacing X with the letter of your Windows 2000 partition. When that is done enter 'C:' then press enter. All you got to do now is enter 'DEL C:\boot.ini' and press enter. Once that is finished take out the boot disk, turn off your pc and you should now have only Windows 98.

Sorry it's a bit long but I hope it helps.

  Taran 12:21 29 Oct 2003

With respect to the above, there are one or two things you need to check first.

I would imagine that the Windows 2000 is possibly on a parallel install and not on a dedicated partition. If it is on its own partition, you need to find out whether or not it is an NTFS file format or a FAT32 format.

If it is on an NTFS partition, if you follow the above steps without making this check you will effectively lose the whole partition Windows 2000 is currently on since when you restore Windows 98 as the default operating system to boot into it is unable to 'see' the NTFS partition that Windows 2000 is/was on.

This is the correct procedure:

Start the computer and select the option to start into Windows 2000. Once the PC has finished loading Windows, open up My Computer and right click on the hard drive icon or icons. Select Properties from the available options when you right click on the hard drive icon then on the General tab there will be an entry called File System. This will read either FAT32 or NTFS.

If you have two hard drive icons it means you either have two hard drives or Windows 2000 did in fact create a dedicated partition to install to, in which case you need to put some thought into how to reclaim that space. If there is only one hard disk icon this means that Windows 2000 went in as a parallel install and it will be on a FAT32 disk (sitting alongside Windows 98).

If it is on a FAT32 partition or is on the same drive as Windows 98, this is your procedure:

Start (boot) your computer from the Windows 98 Startup floppy disk.

At the command prompt, which looks like this:

A:\>

you need to type this command:

FDISK /MBR

then press the Enter key.

Next you need to type this:

SYS C:

then press Enter again.

Remove the startup floppy disk and use Ctrl, Alt and Del keys together to restart the computer, which should now load straight into Windows 98 without any prompts for Windows 2000.

You can delete all of the Windows 2000 files and folders and you should manually delete the following files (note, you may not be able to see all of these files, in which case you should enable the option to see Hidden Files and Folder in your Folder options in Control Panel):

Pagefile.sys

Boot.ini

Ntldr

Ntdetect.com

Ntbootdd.sys (this one might not exist, but if it does you can safely delete it).

As long as Windows 2000 was on the same drive or partition as Windows 98, that's it.

If Windows 2000 was on its own partition and it had formatted it ti NTFS, you should post again with that information and one of us will walk you through that process. It is far harder to get rid of things in this case, and without a third party program like Partition Magic at best you will be able to reclaim the NTFS partition as usable space but Windows 98 will see it as a second drive.

Hope this helps.

Regards

Taran

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