Pc Keeps freezing and won't restart properley

  Never again 20:04 19 Sep 2003


I am running a p3 800, 512 mb, on windows me. my norton av is up to date as are my windows updates.

My pc freezes for no apparent reason and whilst me and the kids are running different programs.

The pc has slowed down considerably.

When it freezes it will not restart with cntl-alt-del and I have to turn off the power.

On estart scandisk will not complete and I have to cancel it. it willnot complete due to disk write in windows either although I only have scandisk, explorer and systray running.

I dont understand whats happenning !!!

Please help me..................

  Never again 20:16 19 Sep 2003

hi spikeychris

so do you think that one of my windows files could have been corrupted?

it seems a bit extreme to have to uninstall ie6 and do all my windows updates again?

surely, there must be an easier way..........ps and I didn'y call call you shirley either.

  Never again 21:44 19 Sep 2003

Sorry about my typos.

When I tried to run it in safe mode the pc didn't even load windows and froze on a black screen. I had to turn the power off and go and eat my colf take away curry.

I didn't realise my pc was so sick. (or me so sad)

incidentally, i recently downloaded pop up stopper as advised on a previous thread and this keeps changing my internet home page - do you think that this could be related????

I always used to suspect that my kids were doing something to the pc to drive me mad but now i'm not so sure !!

  Never again 17:01 21 Sep 2003

Thanks "fellas"

I'm running spybot now - so i'll let you know later.

  Never again 07:50 08 Oct 2003

Thanks fellas - This initially solved the problem, but now its back again.

Windows will not finish starting in normal mode and just freezes before all the stuff is loaded in the system tray.

I have to turn power off and then restart in safe mode. After scandisk runs it finds no problems, but i've also rum norton disk doctor which fixed some lost clustes and invalid files. Ive run adaware and spybot in safe mode but these have not made any difference.

Is it time for a format and new installation of windows. I've had this pc for 5 years now and Its probably bloated. If so is it worth using my 40gb slave as a master?

  Never again 08:13 08 Oct 2003

Thanks for the suggestion Jester2K II.

Ill give it a go but the pc wont even start normally, but will run in safe mode so I'm not sure that it is an overheating problem.

I think that its in my windows startup files as it will load safe mode when bypassing these, but doesn't get to finish a normal boot.

I've been away for a copuple of days and the kids wont admit to anything or any crashes or downloads?

  Never again 12:08 08 Oct 2003

Thanks Jester2K II, where on earth did you find this from?

I've just downloaded this to my work pc, so If i copy this onto a disk will it run under safe mode on my home pc?(which as I said earlier is the only way I can get it to boot anyway)

  Never again 17:48 08 Oct 2003

Ok Jester2K II.

Here it is:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Userinit

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Shell

+ C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe /autorun

+ C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe

+ SysTray.Exe


+ C:\WINDOWS\PCHealth\Support\PCHSchd.exe -s

+ Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme

+ C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton Utilities\nprotect.exe

+ "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"

+ "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccRegVfy.exe"

+ loadqm.exe

+ ctfmon.exe

+ Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme

+ C:\WINDOWS\System\Restore\StateMgr.exe


+ ati2evxx.exe


+ C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton CleanSweep\CSINJECT.EXE

+ C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton Utilities\nprotect.exe

+ C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SymTray.exe "Norton SystemWorks"

+ "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Script Blocking\SBServ.exe" -reg


+ "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe"

+ mstask.exe

C:\WINDOWS\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp

+ ZoneAlarm.lnk -> C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zonealarm.exe

C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp


HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows\Run

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows\Load




Task Scheduler


Does this make any sense to you??

Thanks menorcarob2 for the reply. The pc freezes before it even finishes loading windows. Half way through putting the icons in, etc or even loading zone alarm, etc, which is why I didn't think that it was going to be an overheating problem, as it can be started straight away by cutting the power, f8ing it and choosing safe mode, which it wil run forever it seems.

  Never again 18:06 08 Oct 2003

Sorry Jester2K II

I said at the beginning of the thread that I am running win ME. I tried a step by step but it got me to the same place - a frozen pc before windows loads.

Do you think its time to format my slave and turn it into the master now?

  Never again 18:08 08 Oct 2003

Thanks for your help everyone - I have to go as I am at work, but I'll log on tomorrow.

  Never again 06:59 09 Oct 2003

Again, thanks for your help everyone.

I guess that as no more threads have been posted then I'll use plan B and change my HDD's over,format my previous slave and do a complete reinstall.

Is it worth me buying winxp if winme is so unstable?My pc is 5 years old and I'm a bit concerned about incompatable hardware.

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