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Non booting of desktop.

  Furkin 11:38 07 Jun 2010

ACER T120 AMD 2400+ XPpro - SP3 - 2Gb (max) RAM.
Home use. No Gaming.

Every now and then, my machine won't boot into life. It gets as far as the Windows desktop,,,, but then it's sort of frozen there. All the icons are there & things do look normal.

When I click on an item, the cursor changes to a negg timer, but nothing happens,,,,, nothing happens from then on.

I usually do Ctrl/alt/del & ReStart. This usually starts things o.k.

As it 'usually' starts o.k i'm guessing that there isn't a great problem,,,, more of the occasional glitch.

Sometimes I get a message saying that Explorer is closing down,,,, but as far as I know,it hadn't even been started.

Today, I noticed that the task-bar was replaced by a single black bar of the exact same size as the TB. I have the TB hidden, to make more room on the screen.
Whilst this isn't life-threatening, I did have to do it twice today to get it up'n'runnin.

As I say, 99% of the time, things run o.k.

Any ideas please ?


  Terry Brown 12:23 07 Jun 2010

Try unplugging your non-powered USB devices before you boot up, as you may have a problem with not enough power (Power unit failing).

  Furkin 20:47 07 Jun 2010

Thanks folks,
This has been happening for quite some time,,,, but only about once once every couple of months. It has only ever taken one re-boot to rectify,,,, and the rest of the time, she runs perfectly,,,, in fact very good for it's age/use.

BM: Nothing amiss in D.M. Replaced case fan 4/5 months ago, & cleaned out at the same time.

TB: Have never thought of unplugging things. The only thing that comes on at the same time, is the BT Home Hub 2 router. Nothing else is fired up until I need them.

TIMBO: Have also never heard of re seating RAM - will certainly give it a go.
I am slightly concerned about your instructions for doing this: it reads as if you remove RAM whilst the machine is ON & running. Surely this is a mistake, in that arcing or shorting might occur.
I also prefer to leave the machine plugged in,,,, to make sure I am earthed.

I'm prepared to be corrected in either case.

After re-seating the RAM, I won't know if it helps or not,,,,,,, unless/until it happens again.

thanks all for your time in replying.

  woodchip 20:51 07 Jun 2010

Sounds like its your Antivirus doing a scan of the drive when its starts and using all the power

  Furkin 09:31 08 Jun 2010

WC: Cheers. Not picking nits, but if that were the case, wouldn't it happen more often ?

TIMBO: Ah - clarified. Apolgies for mis-reading your lines.
When I said that "I" prefer to leave it plugged in, I meant with the machine OFF,,,, so that I am earthed when touching the metalware - Noooo lekky.

I had intended to check the RAM before starting this morning, but as I had urgent work to do, had to get on with that first. The machine started fine.

Am about to make tea now,,,, so off with the kit, & re seat the RAM.

thanks again

  Furkin 10:50 08 Jun 2010

Tea was great.
I have re seated the RAM. Everything else 'looks' o.k.
I did note that the PSU is only 200w (FSP200-60aTV), so it wouldn't hurt to put something bigger in anyway.

Does anyone know of a PSU (400w +) with the same connections as this one please ? My machine is all IDE at the moment.

(I was hoping to replace MB, CPU, RAM etc, but another expense cropped up [my disability income dosn't stretch to Two items at a time !!]- but the plan is still there for the near future.)


As I won't know if it's cured until/if it happens again, I'll tick this as RESOLVED. But I'd still appreciate comments.

  Furkin 11:19 08 Jun 2010

TIMBO: thanks my friend

  Furkin 10:59 09 Jun 2010

Have decided to upgrade PSU anyway.
I intend to update the rest of the inside as I go along, so I can future-proof this side of it now.

Am I right in thinking that as long as the replacement unit has MOLEX and 20/24pin MB conns, it will be suitable for my unit ?

Am I also right in thinking that ones with MOLEX AND SATA will allow me to either add a sata drive (or replace an IDE one with SATA) or do SATA drives need different M.B's ?

[email protected] have some great PSU's and up to 800w for £30 or less (they have just recommended LN28579, but that seems very basic compared to lots of others for similar or even less money).

I can see some 600/700w items with 2 x 12v rails of 20a,,,,,, which seem good to me.

(and of course they may add one to Today Only list)

As this is moving away from the OP (Problem) i'll start a new post for it.

thanks to all.

PS: I have to remember to come back to look for replies - as I still can't get notifications. Yep,,, tried ticking & unticking box,,,, dozens of times to no avail. The address is right & I do receive the Newsletter etc.

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