Looking at two computers, which is better value?

  Mills10Mills 17:20 26 Jan 2010

HP Pavilion S5202 Slimline Desktop PC
HP Pavilion S5202 Slimline Desktop PC

Brand HP
Built-in ethernet connection 10/100
CD / DVD optical drive DVD RAM and DVD±R/±RW (dual layer)
Computer Software Helpline Free 90 day computer support
Dimensions H31 x W11 x D39cm
FireWire / IEEE 1394 ports No
Floppy disk drive No
Graphics card nVidia GeForce 6150 SE GPU
Graphics card - video RAM 256MB
Guarantee FREE 2 year guarantee
Hard drive 320GB
Included Wired keyboard and optical mouse
Memory card slot 6-in-1 integrated digital media reader
Model name / number S5202UK
Monitor Not included
Operating system Windows 7 Home Premium
Processor AMD Athlon II X2 processor 215
Processor speed 2.7GHz
Processor Type AMD Athlon
Stereo speakers Not included
TV tuner card No
USB ports 6x USB 2.0
Visible screen size (measured diagonally) Not applicable
Wireless networking No
Software included:
Microsoft Works and Microsoft Office Home and Student 2007 (60-day trial version)
Microsoft Internet Explorer
Windows Mail
HP MediaSmart Suite: Music, Video, DVD, Photo ; Windows Photo Gallery ; Windows Media Player ; Windows Movie Maker, Windows DVD Maker; Cyberlink DVDSuite; EasyBits Magic Desktop; HP Games Console with hours of free game play.
Windows Media Center
Recovery partition (including possibility to recover system, applications and drivers separately)Optional re-allocation of recovery partition; Recovery CD/DVD creation tool; Symantec Norton Internet Security 2009 (60 days live update)


Inspiron 560 MT(D005601a)

Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core Processor E5400 (2.70GHz, 800FSB, 2MB cache)
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64bit - English
Microsoft® Works 9.0 / English - (Does not include Microsoft® Word)
1 year of coverage included with your PC
McAfee® Security Centre - 15 Month Protection - English
No Accidental Damage Support
Display Not Included
2048MB Dual Channel DDR3 1066MHz [2x1024] Memory
320GB (7200rpm) SATA Hard Drive
Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X4500 Graphics
DVD +/- RW Drive (read/write CD & DVD) with DVD Burn software
Dell™ USB Entry Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Dell 2 Button USB Scroll Optical Mouse - Black
Integrated 7.1 channel audio
19-in-1 Media Card reader
No Modem
Formula Red colour
DataSafe Online Backup 2GB 1 year
Also Includes
Inspiron Desktop 560 Minitower Order - UK
Inspiron Desktop 560 Resource DVD (Diagnostic & Drivers)
1 year of coverage included with your PC
Datasafe Local 2.0 Basic
English Documentation
No Speakers (Speakers are required to hear audio from your system)
2 Meter Power Cord - UK

I also want to play Football Manager on it

recommended spec

Intel Processor - Pentium 4 3.0GHz
AMD Processor - Athlon 64 4000+
Nvidia Graphics Card - Geforce 7600 GT 256MB
ATI Graphics Card - Radeon X1800 Series 256MB
RAM Memory - 1.5 GB
Hard Disk Space - 2.5 GB

which is better?

  citadel 17:48 26 Jan 2010

none look good, slimline, not very good for future upgrades. you should be able to get a modern pc with a i3 or 15 cpu and a 5 series ati graphics card for a reasonable price, even the lower range ati cards can play games and are dx11.

  User-312386 18:05 26 Jan 2010

As citadel has said they are bot poor specifications for that sort of money! Steer clear of them both and do a little more hunting.

  OTT_B 18:55 26 Jan 2010

You don't meet the minimum graphics spec for Football Manager on either of the PCs you've listed - they're both a long way shy of the mark.

For a budget of £300 inc. operating system I think you'll struggle.

  OTT_B 18:59 26 Jan 2010

But for £380 (just checked the price of the HP!) you could look at this:

click here

Comes to about £390 inc OS. There is an Intel Core 2 E7500 Duo version for a few pounds more. Far better value for money than the HP or Dell.

  JohnWilliams 20:23 26 Jan 2010

Although the graphics card will not be able to run modern games. It's a low budget card for basic desktop use.
So add another £100 on top of that for a decent card.

  OTT_B 21:23 26 Jan 2010

The graphics card in the link i put above is comfortably better than the recommended spec of a 7600GT.
It also meets the recommended specs for FPS games Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 and exceeds Crysis by a fair chunk (although is unlikely to meet specs for Crysis 2).

If you want a gaming monster then yes, spend £100+ on an upgraded graphic card. If you have a limited budget and want something reasonable then the PC i've linked to is a good place to start.

There's really not much out at the moment that it won't run on average settings.

  JohnWilliams 21:56 26 Jan 2010

The recommended specs for Crysis want at least an 8800GTS and Modern Warfare 2 wants at least a 7800.
The GT220 in that machine is about on par with a 7600GT.
It'll just about run the games but it won't be pretty.

  OTT_B 22:37 26 Jan 2010

Agree that Crysis recommended spec is for an 8800GTS (my mistake), but the GTS220 is pretty well comparable to the 8800GTS in terms of performance, and certainly exceeds min spec by a fair margin.

Cannot agree that the GT220 is 'about on par with a 7600GT'.

MW2 min spec is for a 6600GT, which the GT220 exceeds by a country mile.

You may find these sites useful for comparisons:

click here
click here
click here

The GT220 is fine for a budget gamer.

  JohnWilliams 23:38 26 Jan 2010

It's not comparable to a 8800GTS in the slightest.
click here

  [email protected] 00:10 27 Jan 2010

im just curious as to why the gtx260 is above the 295gtx? which is 2 gtx260 gpu's with 280 architecture?
a 295 doesnt come close to 2x 280gtx. but wipes the floor with 2x 260 gtx?
sorry to butt in i just wondered what that was all about.

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