Increasing RAM in old Tiny N14 laptop

  serbius 13:05 12 May 2018

I have an old laptop that I am resurrecting. I bought it about 2005 sold by Tiny computers who went bust some years ago so finding it impossible to find out any info on it. I was running Windows XP had total of 1Gb Ram ( 2x 512Mb modules) I have just installed Windows 7 on it, but it runs very slowly so I would like to increase the RAM up to 2 GB. The existing RAM modules are PC2700s DDR 512MB so I purchased 2 x 1GB 330Hz modules but when I installed them in the laptop nothing is happening, so I suspect they are not the correct type, or is it that the existing hardware is not capable of using them. Forgive my lack of knowledge, I am just trying to learn about computers so would very much appreciate any advice.

  rdave13 13:33 12 May 2018

That is seriously an old laptop. Google only shows tiny laptops not Tiny lol. Put the old ram back and see if you can run a Crucial scan,click here. You might find the mobo won't support more than 1 gig ram. Hopefully not.

  serbius 13:39 12 May 2018

Thanks for your quick reply rdave13. I tried running the crucial scan but it replied that Crucial does not have any available upgrades! Can I infer from that that the motherboard does not support more that 1Gb of RAM?

  wee eddie 13:56 12 May 2018

serbius: You can assume that Crucial no longer stocks RAM suitable for a laptop of that age. I would guess that 2GB is the upper limit but I doubt that you will find any available anymore.

eBay is your only option

  serbius 13:57 12 May 2018

CPU-Z TXT Report

Binaries

CPU-Z version 1.85.0.x32

Processors

Number of sockets 1 Number of threads 1

APICs

Socket 0
-- Core 0 (ID 0)
-- Thread 0 0

Timers

ACPI timer      3.580 MHz
Perf timer      3.580 MHz
Sys timer       1.000 KHz

Processors Information

Socket 1 ID = 0 Number of cores 1 (max 1) Number of threads 1 (max 1) Name Intel Celeron M 350 Codename Dothan Specification Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.30GHz Package (platform ID) Socket 479 mPGA (0x5) CPUID 6.D.8 Extended CPUID 6.D Brand ID 18 Core Stepping C0 Technology 90 nm Core Speed 1296.0 MHz Multiplier x 13.0 Stock frequency 1300 MHz Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2 Microcode Revision 0x0 L1 Data cache 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size L1 Instruction cache 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size L2 cache 1024 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64-byte line size Max CPUID level 00000002h Max CPUID ext. level 80000008h Cache descriptor Level 2, U, 1 MB, 1 thread(s) Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 32 KB, 1 thread(s) Cache descriptor Level 1, I, 32 KB, 1 thread(s) FID/VID Control no

IBRS            not supported
IBPB            not supported
STIBP           not supported
RDCL_NO         no
IBRS_ALL        not supported

Clock Speed 0       n.a. (Core #0)
Core 0 max ratio    (effective) 13.0

Thread dumps

CPU Thread 0
APIC ID 0 Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 0, Thread ID 0

CPUID        
0x00000000      0x00000002  0x756E6547  0x6C65746E  0x49656E69
0x00000001      0x000006D8  0x00000812  0x00000000  0xAFE9F9FF
0x00000002      0x02B3B001  0x000000F0  0x00000000  0x2C043078
0x80000000      0x80000008  0x00000000  0x00000000  0x00000000
0x80000001      0x00000000  0x00000000  0x00000000  0x00100000
0x80000002      0x65746E49  0x2952286C  0x6C654320  0x6E6F7265
0x80000003      0x20295228  0x7270204D  0x7365636F  0x20726F73
0x80000004      0x20202020  0x20202020  0x30332E31  0x007A4847
0x80000005      0x00000000  0x00000000  0x00000000  0x00000000
0x80000006      0x00000000  0x00000000  0x04004040  0x00000000
0x80000007      0x00000000  0x00000000  0x00000000  0x00000000
0x80000008      0x00002020  0x00000000  0x00000000  0x00000000

MSR 0x000001A0      0x00000000  0x00101088
MSR 0x00000017      0x00140000  0xD22786A3
MSR 0x0000002A      0x00000000  0x43480000

BIOS

UEFI No

Chipset

Northbridge Intel i855GM/GME rev. A2 Southbridge Intel 82801DB (ICH4-M) rev. 03 Memory Type DDR Memory Size 1024 MBytes CAS# latency (CL) 2.5 RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 3 RAS# Precharge (tRP) 3 Cycle Time (tRAS) 7 Host Bridge 0x3580

Memory SPD

DIMM # 1 SMBus address 0x50 Memory type DDR Manufacturer (ID) Samsung (CE00000000000000000000) Size 512 MBytes Max bandwidth PC2700 (166 MHz) Part number M4 70L6524BT0-CB3 Serial number F503C3B7 Manufacturing date Week 22/Year 05 Number of banks 2 Data width 64 bits Correction None Registered no Buffered no Nominal Voltage 2.50 Volts EPP no XMP no AMP no JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency JEDEC #1 2.0-3-3-6-n.a. @ 133 MHz JEDEC #2 2.5-3-3-7-n.a. @ 166 MHz

DIMM # 2 SMBus address 0x51 Memory type DDR Manufacturer (ID) Samsung (CE00000000000000000000) Size 512 MBytes Max bandwidth PC2700 (166 MHz) Part number M4 70L6524BT0-CB3 Serial number F502C3B6 Manufacturing date Week 22/Year 05 Number of banks 2 Data width 64 bits Correction None Registered no Buffered no Nominal Voltage 2.50 Volts EPP no XMP no AMP no JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency JEDEC #1 2.0-3-3-6-n.a. @ 133 MHz JEDEC #2 2.5-3-3-7-n.a. @ 166 MHz

DIMM # 1 SPD registers
00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F 00 80 08 07 0D 0A 02 40 00 04 60 70 00 82 10 00 01 10 0E 04 0C 01 02 20 C0 75 70 00 00 48 30 48 2A 40 20 80 80 45

  rdave13 13:58 12 May 2018

serbius I don't know, but worth trying a 1 Gig and one 512 Mb module.

  serbius 13:59 12 May 2018

The above post is a scan which i did using CPU-Z software. Hopefully that will be useful to someone.

  serbius 14:04 12 May 2018

Thanks for your reply Wee eddie. The new RAM modules I installed were 2x 1GB DDR 330Hz PC2700 which I thought would work, but apparently not!

  serbius 14:09 12 May 2018

rdave13 I will give it a go installing a 1Gb +512Mb module wont take long and report back shortly.

  serbius 14:24 12 May 2018

rdave13 I did remove one of the 512Mb Ram cards and replaced it with one of the new 1 Gb ram cards, but now although the laptop is working o.k when I look in the System information it's reporting only 1Gb or Ram installed. so possibly the limit on this old laptop is 1Gb?

  rdave13 14:32 12 May 2018

Yes it looks like that's the limit.

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