thank you just read through your link the steps do not work on my laptop i think they were done in basic w8. also noted on there that my wife's bootup dvd done when new on w8 will not work with w8.1, wonder how many people knew that one.
unless i am wrong i need to get a usb. got to decide now do i back up 16gb recovery partition or just boot up repair files or get 2 usb sticks and do both.
then another two for the wife's laptop.
why on earth has MS made it so awkward to create these disks?
on my recent saga with a samsung stuck in a loop, MS said the only chance to fix would be a full windows 8 dvd not a repair one.