Thank you. everybody for your help, I couln't do scannow as I only have recovery cd so I did a small install which is why I am on my sons pc as I always lose the modem, and I don't feel like looking now. The graphics card is up and running, I only wish this dll thing had shown up earlier. All being well (££wise) I plan on a new m/board and cpu, so be prepared, that should be really good fun. Once again many thanks to all who posted.