Furkin 10:37 11 Apr 2017

Asus M5A78L-M LX : Phenom IIx2 : 4gb ram : PSU: OCZ 500w : nVidia GT440 : LG IPS234 : HDD: Samsung 1tb + W.D 1tb : Chrome : Win 10 pro (64) + Avast : Malwarebytes : Spybot ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi again,

I'm thinking of upgrading my kit. I reckon just a MB & CPU would be needed.
I may update the Graphics card at a later date.

Is the PSU big enough ?

My existing kit will only take 3gb out of 4gb memory. Is this down to the MB or CPU ?

If the MB is good enough, maybe just a better CPU, so I can use more memory.

I'm not a gamer, nor running massive number crunches, so don't need the very best of graphics.

This isn't urgent, but once it's in the head, it keeps going round.

All advice appreciated.


  MJS WARLORD 12:02 11 Apr 2017

upgrading may be a bad move as your gt440 and ram may not run on it. once you start swapping componants you might find that lots of things dont work with each other , its a money grabber.

take a look at a company called pc specialists , you can get a custom built pc for general use from as little as £450 and by todays standards thats a good base price.

i am suprised that your pc is running on 4gb ( no offence meant ) because in the early days of 64bit pc's 4gb was considered only just enough to make it work.

  Archonar 13:24 11 Apr 2017

If I have found the right motherboard then it will support a large number of processors (click here for a list).

The RAM issue - since you are running pro x64 I would expect you to be able to use all 4. Only 32 bit windows versions limit you to 3gb of ram. Make sure you are on 64 bit windows just to be sure.

I have heard that certain motherboards can have issues with RAM on win10 (see this forum post). I'm not sure what causes this, will look into it further.

As Warlord has said there is a risk that you will have issues with compatibility so it's up to you, if you do only need to upgrade your motherboard / cpu then it will be cheaper than a new system but if not then costs might rise. Your ram / gpu will almost definitely still work as long as you get a similar motherboard.

  Furkin 10:51 13 Apr 2017


I've just double checked Windows 10 and it is 64bit and x64 processor.

I'll look into the RAM situation. I didn't realise it was limited by Win 7(32), I thought it was by the MB/CPU.

I'll be back soon.

  Furkin 11:46 13 Apr 2017

My Crucial scan just came up with:

It looks like the MB won't take anything bigger than 4mb RAM, or am I reading it wrong ?

  Furkin 11:47 13 Apr 2017

  Burn-it 14:27 13 Apr 2017

It is not just Windows that limits the addressable memory. Many motherboard chipsets would not cope and every 32 bit piece of software - including Linux will be limited.

  Secret-Squirrel 18:22 13 Apr 2017

It looks like the MB won't take anything bigger than 4mb RAM, or am I reading it wrong ?

The graphic top-left shows that your motherboard has two RAM slots and they both currently have a 2GB module in each slot - so it's telling you something that you probably already know.

Your motherboard can accommodate up to 16GB of RAM.

By the way, in case you don't know, adding more RAM will not always improve a PC's performance. If you're a light user then your current 4GB may be sufficient and adding more will be a waste of your time and money.

If you want to check whether your PC would benefit from a RAM upgrade then ask and I'll give you some instructions.

.... I reckon just a MB & CPU would be needed.

If your version of Windows 10 came as a free upgrade or is an OEM version then its licence is tied to the motherboard. If you change it then Windows will fail to activate and you'll need to buy a copy of Windows 10.

  Furkin 19:05 13 Apr 2017

Thanks again guys,


I saw the 16gb but also thought it said not to exceed the 2 x 2gb,,,, especially as it came up with the 2 x 2gb sticks on the right.

WOW - Thats something I DIDN'T know about,,,, Win 10 being linked to the MB !!!

People have been spending thousands of pounds on windows (along with other MS stuff) but we're in shtuck if we want to upgrade our machines,,,,,, which would enable us to carry on using MS products.

If you want to check whether your PC would benefit from a RAM upgrade then ask and I'll give you some instructions.

Yes please

  [DELETED] 19:23 13 Apr 2017

Depending on which Phenom IIx2 it is (mostly low benchmarks) ,click here, and click here and there are more variations, you might think of buying a new machine, or go for a motherboard bundle. Novatech for example. The Novatech AMD FX-8 8320 Processor Motherboard Bundle MBB-83208B] looks good combined with Windows 10 (2015 version), will need updating, from [Amazon as just an example. Novatech give full instructions and help over the phone if needed. Please note links are only for examples but I did use Novatech years ago buying a mobo bundle for my then desktop. Worked for years but wasn't strong enough to withstand a local storm grrrr.

  [DELETED] 19:32 13 Apr 2017

Check out Windows 10 carefully even on Amazon. Found a better source, click here but read the reviews diligently. One good thing is your money is covered by Amazon.

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