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Frame sets on dreamweaver

  jacobjohn7 13:09 17 Jun 2008

Help needed please. I have uploaded onto the heart free service (yes, it does exist) and yes they do not provide any customer service for this service (ie: cos its free) but thats another issue. The files are up, only thing is I have produced a frame set on dreamweaver (side top and main panels all on the page), the index page is the main page... and the others are call frame2 etc, but on uploading the index alone appears (how do I get the other frames involved and showing on the site?) any help appreciated. Many thanks.

  jacobjohn7 17:10 17 Jun 2008

many thanks Taran, i dont doubt any of your knowledge on this, and points taken about frames for future reference, i am merely a graphic designer who uses dreamweaver through the design side of things.. i no absolutely zero about the coding side of things (would love to find out more though if I had the time!) I used one of the pre-set frame templates on dreamweaver on a whim really, just to sample doing something in a different way, but the website is 'complete', just want to see it all on screen at the same time.

Anyway, crux of the matter is I have already set up, designed and populated 5 or so pages.. they have all been uploaded... my problem is that all that is showing is the main frame of the frameset when I go to the site. The left frame, and top frame are missing, which should be the permanent features of the design with the main frame changing on button clicks to different sections. The buttons are down the left hand side frame, if it was there..! What I feel i need to do is nest them or mess about with the parent child settings..... but the real solution from yourself or anyone else would be nice. Many thanks for your time and help.

  jacobjohn7 19:56 17 Jun 2008

re: complete: thats why i used the inverted commas forum member.. thanks for comments however.
I have completed the website (as far as I am concerned, and just want to get it on screen regardless of the generic problems a frame based site can cause), its a personal business project of my own, but do not wish to re-convert it to normal static paged site. The website works fine in the browser. But I think you miss the point of my querie and what I am trying to resolve, I dont particularly want a witch hunt of frame based websites.. I have no preference either way. But in the terms of business I have a site, that I have a querie about.
Should I have named the frameset file... 'index.html'.? And would that solve the problem of not having all the frames on screen? Many thanks.

  jacobjohn7 23:03 17 Jun 2008

OK fair points. This is the first time i tried frames... i dont have a thing for them, its just that I tried em out... I have saved one of the files as index.html.... but it seems to me its the wrong one as the whole frame set isnt visible.. thats my problem. Anyway, to be honest I can design the stuff good, as thats my business, but i must admit i find it difficult and fraught with problems which ever method i use for the website, as i dont have any one long period doing websites... so got 2 steps forward and two back usually...
But, after this problem I now have another, and I am a 10.1 on the fustration scale of 10 at present.... and thinking of torching my PC... as Im trying to connect to hosting company now (which was working fine a couple of hours ago) it now says... " an FTP error occurred - cannot make connection to host" so thats a new one for me.. cant even get anything up now. This stuff drives me crazy.... I might try to convert the site to normal..
PS: the coding that Taran kindly posted means nothing to me at all.. I do not know code.. I am looking at web design purely from a creative perspective and not the technical aspect which is why people like me find the whole process frustrating! But not gonna let it beat me.

  jacobjohn7 09:28 18 Jun 2008

thanks for that , in the mean time I was up converting the index page to a single static one, which I know works and doesnt have any problem issues with doing so.
RE: the frames, I am aware of the items of the recipe, its just the link between the three, if dreamweaver is supposed to do it then something has come un-stuck.. (this could be part of the wider issue of the rollovers suddenly not working - which is the simplest thing of all) but once something starts not working on dreamweaver that is when the designer (rather than coder) comes un-stuck, as we cant delve into the background to see whats what.

RE: the three service, they use that to get punters embroiled with the company, ie: buying domain name and setting up, and once they realise that no one is going to help them, and it isnt up all the time they switch to a paid one.. (i have two other paid packages but with easyspace) but wanted to give the free package a try, so more than likely I will be converting to the cheapest paid for package. Out of interest I find the portal on heart a lot easier to use... and clearer than easyspace for what its worth.

The frame files i have uploaded are: 'frame-2.html' 'frame-3.html' and 'frameset-4.html'
I hope you can see something in that...
One sub question for you: why after creating an html file does dreamweaver display them as 'htm'? Further confusion for someone who tries to do it all by the book (literally).

Thanks for spending time to correct a website thicko... and you were so right about server being down looks that way, as I can connect now!
Cheers John

  jacobjohn7 10:11 20 Jun 2008

Thanks all for your help.. Re-done it as a static page, which works fine. If anyone as any mega link for optimisation (i done all the biggies) and help on adsense then that would be great.. looks like a US account, is that right for the UK for payments? Thanks once more for time taken to think about my querie. Appreciated..

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