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  johnnyrocker 12:30 02 Dec 2003

i sent this to colleagues at work and to date three of them along with myself have had the same call but fortunately had been warned.


i got one of these calls the other night and fortunately hung up on it.
This is from the Thames Valley police and faxed to me via neighbourhood watch.

" On answering your phone a recorded message as follows 'Congratulations. We are calling to advise you that you have won an all expenses paid trip to an exotic desdination. Now please press 9 to hear further details'
WARNING if you do press 9 you will be connected to a premium rate line that bills in the region of £20 per minute.

If you press 9 and connect, even if you disconnect immediatly, the other end will stay connected for a minimum of 5 minutes. This will cost you £100 and lasts for 11 minutes.

The final part of the call asks you to key in your postcode (eh?), house number which can lead to other serious consequences. Then after a further 2 minutes the call responds with a message saying 'sorry, you are not one of the lucky winners'. Thereafter disconnecting you adding another £260.00 to your bill.

Unfortunately the calls are originating from outside the UK and BT and other telephone companies are relativly powerless to act. The safe solution is to hang up before the mssage asks you to press 9"

  johnnyrocker 12:50 02 Dec 2003

anyone had a call?


  [email protected]@m 13:40 02 Dec 2003

Urban Myth, johnny. You cannot convert an incoming call into an outgoing one unless you have Three-Way Calling. Then you press R. Even then, the called party cannot hold the connection if you hang up.

Having said that, it is of course possible to record such a message and play it to a number you have dialled.

  johnnyrocker 14:35 02 Dec 2003

sorry [email protected]@m not a myth, if one remembers police getting involved in a similar scam some years ago where the public were being called by people purporting to work for ntl or any such cable companies and were checking (allegedly) line quality with a view to allegedly installing in the area, the same idea of pressing 9 gave the fraudsters access to dial ups all over.


  [email protected]@m 14:50 02 Dec 2003

I don't see how it could happen. If the exchange your telephone is connected to hears a '9' from your end whilst you have an incoming call, it will ignore it.

If the '9' is received by the callers exchange, it will ignore it. Trust me on this.

Even if the caller has 'sophisticated' equipment connected to their phone line, they cannot gain access to your equipment in the exchange. And that is the only way to ramp up your phone bill.

  [email protected]@m 15:37 02 Dec 2003

Please don't get the wrong impression from all this. It is just as important that people are made aware of the situation, and be re-assured if they do get such a call or email.

When I first started at the GPO (in nineteen-hundred and frozen to death) someone was ringing people to say their phone was faulty, and was affecting the whole street. 'Please put it in a bucket of water until the engineer comes'.

  johnnyrocker 16:18 02 Dec 2003

indeedy telegram boys as well, however if there is no benefit to the originators why do they bother setting up the calls in the first place? as i say i had one and three colleagues at work had calls.


  johnnyrocker 16:48 02 Dec 2003

which doesn't explain why someone bothers if there is no percentage in it for them


  [email protected]@m 16:56 02 Dec 2003

It's just a wind-up. Djohn, true, it will give you time to pick up the call on another extension. It will time-out after 3-6 minutes to prevent mis-use.

  johnnyrocker 16:59 02 Dec 2003

my point is someone paid for the call to my place offering me a £35,000 bmw round the world hiday etc which if they are getting nothing out of it is a waste of time and out of pocket for the caller!


  johnnyrocker 17:07 02 Dec 2003

dont help my 16.59


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