The end of the saga!. Returned No.1 and got No.2 new laptop. Everything fine til trying to go live for wireless. Signal not recognised and Orange could not help. What a surprise!
Inspiration, look into Device Manager, what did I find. Under Drivers "Unidentified object".
Updated driver, tried the LiveBox and yes you have it we are now live.
So remember all beginners it might not be your lack of knowledge apparently Tobisha had a number of laptops fitted with the incorrect drivers (mine being one)so their webpage says. Now would it not have been sensible to send out a memo to all their buyers just to put a note in with that particular brand telling one the problem? Those with no knowledge would not have had a clue.