Athlon XP or 64?

  [DELETED] 18:23 21 Dec 2004

I'm torn at what to get for my new pc. The Athlon XP 3000 or the Athlon 64bit 3000?

Which is better value for money and is the difference between them worth the difference in price?

(This new pc will be primarily for gaming, photoshop and media)

  bremner 18:26 21 Dec 2004

64 bit will be the defacto processor within a very short time.

XP 64 bit will be with us next year and 64 applications are sure to follow.

I do not think there is much of a case for buying a non 64 bit system if your budget allows.

  [DELETED] 18:27 21 Dec 2004

also ive seen the 64BIT 3000 for £95 and theres a 64BIT 3000 (Newcastle) for £93. Whys the Newcastle version cheaper?

  [DELETED] 18:29 21 Dec 2004

PLUS the Winchester version is £96. Whats the difference between all of these? they dont make purchasing very easy >_<

  BITS&BOBS 18:41 21 Dec 2004

Condidering the 939 Pin AMD64 3000+ is cheaper than a 3000+ XP there really is no sound argurment why you should chose the older technology over the new.

The 939 pin model is the new platform going to be used by AMD and the AMD 64bit range are now establishing them selves as arguably the best chips around at the moment, just type into google for why.

So if its not costing you anymore would you not get the most future proof upto date chip?

939 Pin - 'Winchester', the new AMD platform(Integrated dual channel memory controller)

754 Pin - 'Newcastle' , 512k cache old platform.

  BITS&BOBS 18:43 21 Dec 2004

"This new pc will be primarily for gaming, photoshop and media)"

Then there really is no argument !!! get the AMD64 3000 + just make sure you get the 939pin version : click here

  [DELETED] 18:45 21 Dec 2004

thank you very much bits and bobs, i'll het the AMD 64 3000 Winchester ^_^

My new pc should look like this then

AMD Athlon 64 3000 Winchester...
1024MB-DDR (PC2100/266)...
XFX Nvidia GeForce FX 5600 XT - 256MB Graphics card...
80GB HDD + 10GB Back Up drive

  Rayuk 19:15 21 Dec 2004

Check with your supplier that the motherboard will take the Winchester chip,as some have been shipping motherboards that need the bios flashing before they will run the Winchesters.

Winchester is the 0.9 the Newcastle is the 0.13 the Winchester runs at a lower voltage and also slightly cooler.

  [DELETED] 22:10 21 Dec 2004

ahh thanks, i'll make sure to ask that before purchasing a motherboard, that sounds like invaluble info! thank you very much Rayuk!

  BITS&BOBS 22:14 21 Dec 2004

Rayuk has picked up on a good point, you will be needing a socket 939 pin motherboard.

But you knew that anyway yes?

Here's where:
click here

Checked on the motherboard BIOS updates sites for Abit, Asus and MSI and none have released BIOS for rayuk's point so take that as the one's you buy will be fine as all 939 chips are 0.13 hence why they made 939 boards that will run them straight away .

  BITS&BOBS 22:34 21 Dec 2004

Sorry I ment to say 90nm.

AMD has said that the major difference between the Winchester and Newcastle CPUs is that their 90nm CPU actually runs much cooler and consumes far less energy than its 130nm brethren

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