Advice on Graphics Cards please

  User-7A745D18-AA77-4264-9D17E76CC8A1664E 22:04 25 Jan 2003

My system comprises of 256 PC2700 RAM, AMD XP 2000+ processor, a 60GB hard drive and a Creative Labs Geforce 2 GTS card with 32MB of RAM. OS is Windows XP.

The graphics card is starting to show it's age, especially with more recent games such as "No One Lives forever 2" which is prone to slowdown at times when run at 1024x768 in 32 bit.

Although I would love to have one of the new Radeon 9700 cards, I really don't want to spend the best part of £300. I've been looking at the Geforce 4 TI 4600 cards from Creative and PNY and I would welcome comments on these and any other cards costing around £200.

One concern I have is that my system has a 300W power supply and I note from PNY's web site that they recomend a 350W supply. I would therefore be interested to know if any one is running a TI 4600 based card with a 300W supply.

Sorry, that should read 256MB PC2700 RAM.

  obbit 22:09 25 Jan 2003

Hi JamesF......400watt would be better i think...........bit in reserve.



  PªūĽ ™ ♂ 22:55 25 Jan 2003

A 350 watt would be better but I have never had any problems with any Graphics card on my PC with a 300 watt psu. Im currently running a GF3 TI 200 (Overclocked) on it but I had a GF4 MX 440 running fine as well. As for James bond It will not run very well on many systems

  rickf 22:59 25 Jan 2003

You might be interested. I bought a XFX GeForce4 128ddr Ti4200 with TV out, DVI and ViVO for £125 at the comp fair. This card also uses the new fx engine! I was shocked.It has changed the graphics on my monitor to something quite unbelievable. I am happy guy at the mo. BTW, its very fast too. You can tell I am happy with my buy. Sad really for a fifty something.

  jazzypop 23:06 25 Jan 2003

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  Worf100 23:47 25 Jan 2003

They had the above in my local PC World in the sale @ £199.95 .... TV, DVD recording, teletext, firewire, s-video, breakout box & software. I think they also has a standard 7500 !
rickf's idea is sound. You local college / university may also have a 'friendly' pre-used computer sales shop near by, try the students union office.
I have in the past run two cd roms, two hard drives, a Jaz plus a card mounted cooling fan without problems off 300w. If it works OK fine save yourself some time & money, if not get a larger power supply. Again try computer fairs etc
Good luck

  goonerbill 01:08 26 Jan 2003

have a look at this card Abit Siluro OTES GeForce4 Ti4200 on there web site. can be overclocked to almost ti4600 speeds and is priced around £140 +/-

Thanks for replies.

Would I be correct in thinking that the TI4600 cards are more power hungry than the TI4200 meaning that while the latter will work with a 300W PSU, the TI4600 cards will strugle. Also, what are the potential problems that can arise using the TI4600 cards with a 300W PSU.

I undersstand that the Geforce cards do not have support for DirectX 9. When games are released that require this, does it mean that they cannot be played or is it simply that certain graphical detail will not be available.

  rickf 10:55 26 Jan 2003

It would certainly take up more power but you will not know if your psu can cope until you try it. To be on the safe side I have a 550wpsu before upgrading everything else. The Connect3 Radeon 9500 pro is faster than the Ti4200 on test. The one I bought above comes with a analogue/dvi adapter supplied. Wit Gainward for example and some others you have to buy it as extra.

  rickf 10:56 26 Jan 2003

JamesF, The latest GeForce 4 cards do support Dx9 so does the Radeon Pro 9500 at aroung £135 at comp fairs incl of vat.

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