Additional 2GB RAM makes no difference

  Cluelessone 21:39 24 Nov 2011

Dear Chaps

Ran the Crucial memory check program and bought and added 2 GB to the 1 GB I already have.

In the 4 slots, I now have 2 x 512s & 2 x 1GBs. System Properties shows 3 GB. Problem is there is absolutely no discernible difference in speed.

I obviously did something wrong. Anyone like to say what please?

Running XP on a 3 Ghz P4 Dimension 5150

  lotvic 21:53 24 Nov 2011

Do you mean the speed of your programs you have running or the Internet Speed?

What was 'running slow' that decided you to put more ram memory in? (which was a good idea as 1Gb is a bit near the minimum for XP programs to run efficiently)

  lotvic 21:59 24 Nov 2011

Here's a couple of tweaks you prob didn't do after putting the new ram in: virtual memory paging file and performance options

  Cluelessone 22:09 24 Nov 2011

Reply to LOTVIC

Program running speed is slow. (So is internet, but at 100Mbps thats to be expected!)

PC takes over 5 minutes to boot up to "useable" Opening outlook after start takes nearly 2 mins. Itunes about 40 secs My Pictures: 30 secs.

56 processes on task manager(!) 10 at startup: all needed.

  Fruit Bat /\0/\ 22:30 24 Nov 2011

1. Software

a) Clear out all temporary files and folders -- use CCleaner

b) Scan for malware spyware and viruses --Free Anti Spyware :- Malwarebytes Superantispyware

Free Antivirus software MicroSoft Security Essentials Avast

c) Clean the registry -- Use the tool in Crap Cleaner its very safe and also allows you to back up the registry first.

d) Pagefile (Virtual Memory) -- Right click MY Computer - select properties - Advanced tab - Performance - advanced tab - Virtual memory click change, you can put the page file on a different drive (if you have one), click custom size and set Initial size to one and a half times the amount of memory you have fitted i.e. 512MB memory = set to 768MB, set maximum to double your memory amount i.e. 512MB memory = 1024MB click ok. If your hard drive is full and there is not enough room for the pagefile this can slow down, freeze or even cause the PC to crash (restart).

e) Cut down on the programs that load at start up -- Start - Run type msconfig - start up tab- untick everything except for firewall, antivirus and antispyware

and the services that run in the background.

2. Hardware

a) Hard drives /

i) IDE Channels: (Not required if you have SATA drives) Check the transfer rate, you need to have the transfer mode set to DMA not PIO. Right click My Computer - Properties - Hardware - Device Manager - Expand (click the + ) IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers right click Primary Channel - Advanced Settings Tab - If transfer Mode is PIO then follow the instructions at to change.

ii) Check for errors and defrag your hard drives -- My Computer - select drive - properties - tool tab - Error checking / Defragmentation.

ii) If you are using Windows XP, Vista or Windows 7 it's a good idea to convert your system drive to the NTFS file system if you have not already. In addition to providing numerous security and data recovery improvements over FAT32 (the file system of choice for Windows 9x/ME and XP Home) it can also speed up your system slightly.

In fact, the only real reason for sticking with the FAT32 file system for any of your data is if you have more than one operating system on your PC and the other OS's can only see FAT32 partitions (as would be the case with Windows 98, for example, which is incapable of reading NTFS data).

To convert your drives to NTFS: Right click on 'my computer' and select 'manage' From the computer management window, expand storage and select 'disk management.' Using the 'file system' column of the upper pane of this window, you can easily check what file system each of your logical drives is using. Make a note of this information. Now open a command prompt window by going to 'start\run' and typing 'cmd' To convert a disk to NTFS, type 'convert (drive letter): /fs:ntfs' So for example, if you were going to convert your C: drive, you would type 'Convert c: /fs:ntfs' at the prompt.

b) Drivers Obtain the newest drivers for your hardware This may seem a bit obvious, but keeping your system's drivers up to date can give both your performance and stability a boost. Video card manufacturers release updates especially often, and these can often give "significant boosts" to gaming performance as video card in question is "optimized."

Don't neglect the other components of your system either. Your motherboard manufacturer may have released newer versions of its Input/output drivers for your board, and sound cards and other peripherals can also benefit from newer software.

c) Memory Your memory could be failing try memtest

  Cluelessone 22:58 24 Nov 2011

Reply to Fruit Bat

Clear out all temporary files and folders: Done

Scan for malware spyware and viruses: In progress.It'll take an hour or 2.

Pagefile (Virtual Memory): Done

Cut down on the programs that load at start up: Only essentials load.

IDE Channels: Done Already DMA

File System: Done. Already NTFS

Disc Errors: No defrag required. Will check for errors tomorrow after Kaspersky has done its stuff.

Any more for any more???

  lotvic 23:01 24 Nov 2011

Fruit Bat /\0/\'s the man for slow pc's - excellent advice.

"internet, but at 100Mbps" that is your pc's connection to your router not your routers connection speed to the internet. 100Mbps is top notch and only available on Virgin Cable and very expensive... You would have to log in to your routers home page to see what speed it is connecting at and you can do a speedtest to see what you are actually getting

  Cluelessone 23:01 24 Nov 2011

Is there any rule saying what order the sticks need to be placed in? Eg: Do the 1Gbs need to be first followed by the 512s??

  Cluelessone 23:10 24 Nov 2011

Reply to LOTVIC

Speedtest comes up as: B+ / Ping 42ms. / Jitter 2ms / Download speed 2.93mbps. / Upload 0.33Mbps

  Cluelessone 23:12 24 Nov 2011

Scan will take hours yet, so time for bed. Thanks for the help thus far!

  Batch 08:27 25 Nov 2011

Open up Task Manager (CTL+ALT+DEL)and go to the Performance tab and see how much memory is:

a) being recognised.

b) being used / has been used since boot up.

If you still have problems after following Fruit Bat's advice, I suspect that your problems maybe more likely to do with one or more of:

1) Far too much software installed (and kicking off loads of unnecessary processes on boot-up). So uninstall anything you don't need.

2) Malware

3) Failing hard disk (which can seriously slow down a system)

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