Time Graphic Cards

  jimnjo 19:05 12 Oct 2003

Hope Chris cahelp with this one.

Having owned 2 Time computers, 1 PC and 1 laptop, both worked without problem for several years now, I had decided to replace my PC with a Platina AMD64 3200.

The Computer shopper gave it a good review and the display model in my local was impressive.

However, the Computershopper review stated it had a 9800 pro graphics card, the display model in the shop had a 9800 pro graphics card.
The ads in the Time catalogue stated an ATI 256mb all in wonder graphics card.
I emailed TIME and the reply is received was,'The card they use is an ATI 9200 and have never used the 9800 card'.

Does this mean them machines Time use in their shops for demo purposes and issue to magazines for testing are actually a higher spec than the ones you pay for.

The answer to this question determines whether I get a Time AMD64 3200 or an EVESHAM AMD64 3200 with an ATI 9600 card.



  Rayuk 19:45 12 Oct 2003

Just had a look at their website for these pcs and must say for an £1800 computer their choice of graphics cards verge on the ridiculous.

The card they use is actually the 9200SE which is a budget edition of the card.[not sure exactly the diff possibly slower memory]

They dont even state what All in Wonder card they are actually using on another pc.

If they have the 9800Pro in the showroom machine I would think Trading Standards or the Advertising Agency may be interested

  fitfella29 21:04 12 Oct 2003

i wouldnt pay 1800 quid for a up to date system with a graphics card like that.

look around for a better deal.

  fitfella29 21:10 12 Oct 2003

just looked on the evesham site and u can get this for £1799.

Axis 64 3200+ XL
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ processor
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
1024MB ultra fast DDR RAM (PC3200) 400MHz
160GB serial ATA hard disk
256MB DDR ATI Radeon 9800 Pro graphics with TV-Out & DVI
17" Philips 170B4BS TFT DVI monitor

  lateknight 21:43 12 Oct 2003

Go for the Evesham
I wouldn't trust Time computers as far as I could throw them (not far!)
You'll get top notch components in the Evesham machine and better support.
A Radeon 9200 Graphics card in a £1,800 machine is taking the p*ss! - Where else will they have cut corners?

  larusso 09:07 13 Oct 2003

The PC revewed in Shopper magazine is a different PC to the one that is on display in stores.

If you'd like the PC in Shopper magazine (featuring the 9800 card) then best to call 01282 777555 or e-mail [email protected]

  woody147 14:33 13 Oct 2003

you only have to look at the style of advertising (woohoo look at this big number) used by time to realise they're trying to con people who perhaps don't know very much about computers. e.g. 256 MB graphics card, amazing, twice the power of lesser systems. yeah right. like anything is twice as powerful as a 128Mb radeon 9700pro. or even 5% more powerul. etc...etc...

  jimnjo 16:14 13 Oct 2003

And to confuse matters further, I have just looked in this weeks COMPUTERACTIVE magazine.

They have reviewed the TIME AMD64 3200 but with a NVIDIA FX5900 card.

Time emailed me with the info that they use the ATI9200, have never used the ATI9800 but have used the 9500.

What's the game,
COMPUTERSHOPPER get a machine with and ATI 9800 PRO,
COMPUTERACTIVE get a machine with and FX5900,
my local COMPUTERWORLD shop had a machine, (not necessarily the AMD64 3200 model), but clearly showing a display with an ATI9800 card,
yet TIME say they only use the 9200.

All a bit iffy, think I will stick with EVESHAM, or keep looking.


  Rayuk 17:25 13 Oct 2003

The card they have on their site for the £1799 pc is the 9200SE which as I inferred had lower clocked memory as in this link
click here

  larusso 16:17 14 Oct 2003

The machines you've seen in Shopper and Active are review machines which are available to buy if you call the 01282 777555 number in the magazines.

They are completely different to the ones available in The Computer World.

If you've received an e-mail off Time sales team then I can assure you that they are confused. I used to work there and helped set up the reviews in Shopper and Active. It seems that they are not on the ball since I left!!

Time are not trying to con anyone - they just don't sell the PCs that you see in magazines in their shops.


  Rayuk 17:19 14 Oct 2003

Still doesnt explain why an £1700-1800 pc has such a low end card on it

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