tbh72 15:21 02 Oct 2003

click here

This is a very eye opening website very much worth a look. Appologies if the link has been posted before.


  tbh72 15:32 02 Oct 2003

FE - you are clued up on copyright. I have read the law correct in that you can make a copy of one format to another for personal use so long as that format doesn't contain any form of copy protection.

  Forum Editor 16:58 02 Oct 2003

are under close scrutiny at the moment, and there'll be some changes in the UK - once we have decided how we're going to implement EU directives.

At the moment the situation is that you can make a single 'backup' copy of a software CD for your own use without attracting any untoward attention from the copyright owner. This isn't a 'right' enshrined in law, but a generally accepted practice - after all, you aren't depriving the copyright holder of any income by making the copy.

What you mustn't do however, is to circumvent any copy protection measures that have been placed on the CD by its copyright owner - and therein lies the rub, as they say. How can you make your backup copy if you can't circumvent the copy protection measures?

In America, there's a good deal of controversy raging, and people like me - who have a special interest in copyright laws - are watching what's going on there with great interest. There's a groundswell of opinion that says the American copyright laws have gone too far, and that the consumer no longer has 'reasonable' control over the media content that he or she has paid for. What that means in plain language is that many Americans want to have the 'right to copy' incorporated into the nation's copyright laws, and that brings them into direct conflict with the copyright owners and legislators.

What many people forget is that copyright isn't only good for the creator of original works - it's good for us consumers as well. By ensuring that authors/artists/musicians/software engineers etc. have robust protection against the illegal copying of their work the law is ensuring that it's worthwhile for people to create the work in the first place. If you know that any Tom, Dick or Harriet can copy what you do you without paying you a penny you are probably less likely to want to bother doing it.

  lixdexik 17:17 02 Oct 2003

I bought my daughter a Sony personal cd player.
Which can also read mp3 Cds. Enclosed with this player is a Sony Cd with the software to copy Cd wave files as Mp3 files to a Cd r or rw. If copyright owners (and Sony are one of the biggest are they not) don't want people to copy their Cds...then..WHY do they condone this practice by supplying the very means to make the illegal copies in the first place.
Double standards by copyright owners is it not.


  GANDALF <|:-)> 18:09 02 Oct 2003

As explained before, copyright on music tracks is aimed at reducing piracy and halting copying for profit. There has been tacit agreement/turning a blind eye for years, that copying your own (i.e. purchased) music onto tape/CD/MP3 for playing in the car etc. is acceptable. As the FE said it is not enshrined in law and copying is not a right. The problem is where people download or copy music that they have NOT paid for and is made even worse when they then try to sell it to a third party.

The controversy raging about copyright is really about those who will not pay for music or try to sell music that is not theirs to sell. The majority who abide by the law always pay for the minority that flout the law. IIRC, in the States, it is legal (FOIA act) to make a single 'backup' copy of any software that you have purchased, it is not legal but somewhat accepted here.


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