Computeach opinions

  dave_the_red 23:48 07 May 2004

Has anyone on here had any experience of computeach. I have just been accepted for the networking professional/ mcse course. I am now wondering if it is worthwhile as i have not yet signed up or paid anything. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated especially from ex computeach students.


  GANDALF <|:-)> 09:23 08 May 2004

IT staff are finding it very difficult in the present climate. there are a lot of IT jobs going to India (BA were one of the many) and all ports East. Most systems admin. work can be done over the wires so it is not necessary to have IT staff in the same country as the computers.

Some jolly here click here click here

There is nothing wrong in getting a qualification and it can be useful but I would not rely on it magically providing a job.

A company that I do a lot of work for, advertised in March for a junior admin to assist on their network. There were 280 applicants and half were over qualified. The job was paying £15k p.a. I leave you to draw your own conclusions.


  dave_the_red 10:11 08 May 2004

I have heard the same sort of thing quite a lot now. Computeach is expensive and i would not want to get myself into too much debt and not get a job out of it. Does anyone know of other good training providers or ways to get into the it industry?

  GANDALF <|:-)> 10:15 08 May 2004

click here is cheap in comparison and will give you a taster.


  hugh-265156 14:22 08 May 2004

im doing the "complete desktop tutor" course purely for fun with learn direct and hope to get my ECDL

i would recommend it.

  spuds 15:37 08 May 2004

As a cautionary note, make sure that you pay by credit card, because it is becoming a noticable fact that a number of these type of training establishments are finding it a struggle to survive.Recently within this forum, someone was asking about a company that they had 'lost' contact with.

I would also advice that you contact your local college advisory department, as they may have information about local or government fund aided courses.Plus they would also have information as to the job prospects on what you may eventually decide.

  dave_the_red 09:51 09 May 2004

Thankyou all for your help have decided not to pay the £4550, that they wanted and am going to take a different route. I have seen an a+ course for £49 and am going to start with that and move on from there. Thanks a lot and any more links or advice would still be welcome.


I found the curse through your link gandalf so thankyou for that.

  dave_the_red 09:52 09 May 2004

Course even lol

  Taran 10:13 09 May 2004

The trouble is that these days you are either classed as overqualified and under-experienced or the other way around.

The days of a MCSE guaranteeing employment are long gone and although it is a desirable qualification to have, on its own it may not cut the mustard, depending on what it is you want to do.

I'm self-employed and so I found that my MCSE (among a lot of other things) has been of little use to me, but I'm still glad I did it. Were I in the market for gainful employment I'm sure it would be well worth having, always assuming I could find someone willing to hire me !

On a purely personal note I get a lot of enquiries from budding web designers, networkers and all kinds of everything IT, who all seem hell bent on working for me. This is pretty common where small businesses are concerned, and it can get a bit depressing sometimes reading through some pretty serious CVs loaded with long lists of qualifications and/or experience. You aren't in a position to offer these people anything and it could be easy to get a bit despondent in the face of such an overwhelming demand for the relatively few jobs there are.

There are a lot of people looking for work and not as much work for them as there used to be.

I'd say your best bet is to learn a lot about a lot of things, and learn a vast amount about one or two specialist topics. A couple of years ago Flash animators and programmers were heavily in demand - now though, the story is very different.

Networkers are now divided into two main groups: huge salaried coprorate specialists and network assistants on comparatively low salaries who invariably do far more than they should and who work at a far higher level than their salary reflects.

If you can demonstrate a good technical knowledge of hardware, operating system and application software, networking and one or two specialist areas (.NET or PHP programming, Apache server management or IIS skills for example) you are in a stronger position.

There is no short road and I wish I could make this sound more encouraging. I had to gently explain to one of my more enthusiastic students some time ago that no, they wouldn't be paid vast amounts to sit and install Windows 2000 Server and configure user accounts. They seemed genuinely surprised.

On the plus side, CompuTeach have been on the go for ages and have a pretty good reputation in their field. I know a few people who have studied various programming courses through them and they seem to have got along quite well.

Have you checked out your local college or university ? Most will offer MCPs at the very least, and the majority will also deal with MCSE. Many will also allow flexible studying hours to one degree or another, as well as payment spreading options. Just a thought.

Good luck with it, no matter what you decide to do.

  dave_the_red 09:37 10 May 2004

Thanks for that taran, very useful information. I am grateful for that. I know where to come when i want a job lol. In fact we can put an end to this now and i can start working for you tomorrow. :-)


  squillary 15:25 11 May 2004

The bottom line of Computeach is that they want to charge £4550. Whatever line they give you on your future earnings that works will do. They'll still have got £4550.


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