anti-spam legislation

  obbit 19:06 18 Sep 2003

it seems like a drop in the ocean. most spam comes from usa and asia. £5000 is peanuts.

  Jester2K II 19:10 18 Sep 2003

but is it per-spam message??? (Hopes and prays)

  Jester2K II 19:11 18 Sep 2003

In fact what is the legislation EXACTLY??

  obbit 19:35 18 Sep 2003

hhmmmmmmmmm yes!! just a gimmick. not stop much at all!!

  Jester2K II 22:19 18 Sep 2003

click here

Under the new law, spammers could be fined £5,000 in a magistrates court or an unlimited penalty from a jury.

  Forum Editor 23:23 18 Sep 2003

but not much of a deterrent either.

spammers have to be caught before they can be fined, and the Information Commissioner - who is the one charged with the job of catching them - will not have anything like enough money or staff to do the job effectively.

No matter how hard governments may try they will never stop spam. We, the online community could do it, but I doubt that we have the collective will do achieve it. If nobody responded to spam messages they would dry up - not immediately, but dry up they certainly would. Nobody in their right mind is going to risk even the relatively small amount that it costs to send spam unless there is some worthwhile return, and if nobody responded to the offers of online prescription medicines, enlargement of body parts, debt management services, etc. etc. that flood the mail servers 24 hours a day they would eventually stop. Unfortunately, enough people respond to make it worthwhile, so the deluge continues to grow.

The solution is there before us, as is the solution to the drug abuse problem, the alcohol abuse problem, the child abuse problem, the personal debt problem, the gambling problem, and pretty well any other human failing you care to mention. All we have to do is resist temptation, and we have it solved.

  spuds 00:00 19 Sep 2003

As the FE as stated,it will be a difficult task for the Information Commissioner, due to funding and the likes. Nearly all this type of thing, start off with good intentions, only to fail at the first hurdle, when funds are not diverted in the right direction, or are shortcoming.Always looks good on paper though.

Perhaps the detective work, should start at the Server end of things. But again, this would perhaps cause large financial losses, for the Server companies in administrating the system, of tracing and closing down the perpetratures. The courts would also require streamling, so fair and just action can be seen to work, so ending this increasing problem of spam, we all seem to be burdened with.

  Jester2K II 08:14 19 Sep 2003
  obbit 17:48 19 Sep 2003

thanks Jester2K II. the legislation is worthless and in my opinion just a gimmick by the government.

it will not stop hardly any spam and actually makes it legitimate to busineses, which, will still be inundated by it.

email is going to die off if something real is done to stop spam.

  obbit 18:59 19 Sep 2003

if something real isn't done

  Talented Monkey 19:51 19 Sep 2003

This is another example of the powers that be not thinking things through properly and is just a waste of time. Looking at the spam I get, the majority of it seems to have originated outside UK, so this will continue regardless of any law here. Not having read any of the legislation yet, how are they dealing with the companies who buy mailing lists from other companies and in my eyes quite legitimately sending emails to everyone selling their products?

Another question what exactly qualifies as spam? Can companies still buy these lists or compile their own lists and send information out? This is still ?spam? but after all these mailing lists are gained from when we visit sites and sign up for something or request information, how many times have you forgotten to check or even uncheck the little box stating ?do you want to receive any information in the future from us or other companies for similar products you may be interested in? or other words to that effect. Surly this is ?legal? as we have given consent.

As FE points out it is our fault for replying to these, maybe if the public were educated more such as using spam filtering software and not post your email address anywhere on forum etc, then it may slow down.

For example, if you do want to post your email anywhere, change the content that people can understand but not robots eg. yourname?at?yourisp?dot?com you can also create another email address for using on non essential sites and posts etc, say [email protected] when you get too much spam delete the account and create a new one. [email protected] Leaving your important one [email protected] spam free

Now the government has waged war on the electronic problem, maybe they can now look at the physical problem, for a long time junk mail has vastly outnumbered all other post coming through my letter box.. but hang on this wont happen will it, of course not , silly me, This is because email is free to send isn?t it! funny how the government are targeting something they are not making money out of!.

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