AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4ghz v Core I7 920

  VNAM75 14:58 06 Mar 2010

Which one is the better long term value? The AMD is about £75 cheaper; £136 v £212, which is very good value. Looking at cpu charts the I7 outperforms it in most applications but not by lots and overall its quite close.
I want to build a new pc which will need to last me for 3-5 years. I will use it for everything, including video encoding and games. The AMD runs at a much higher frequency though, 3.4ghz v 2.66ghz. How well do these processors overclock? This will be important as I will be looking to do this about 2-3 years into its life. I was dead set on the AMD but if I'm going to run the pc for the next 5 years would the I7 be a better choice?

  GaT7 17:03 06 Mar 2010

If no video editing or gaming, then I'd choose the AMD. I think their motherboards are cheaper too.

As for overclocking, read a few independent reviews click here & click here. G

  AL47 17:24 06 Mar 2010

the AMD will be a much cheaper system! and AMD tend to use the same socket type for many years whereas intel change it every week!

i went for the i7 920 tho, i often encode DVDs and its easily capable of 4GHz on each core, and its triple channel ram provides amazing bandwidth for encoding video

  AL47 17:28 06 Mar 2010

anandtech have good comparison charts,

fyi, in jan 2010 i paid £200 for my CPU, £130 for 6GB ram [good ram] and 140 for the motherboard

  VNAM75 01:05 07 Mar 2010

I think I will go for the AMD. I'm looking to spend £1000 which includes a decent 23" TFT monitor. I forgot about the motherboards, for the I7 you need to spend £150+, for the AMD a decent one is only £80.

  AL47 01:45 07 Mar 2010

if you wanna spend under £1000 then yes the AMD is best

  VNAM75 02:10 07 Mar 2010

This is the system I am thinking of getting, parts are all from ebuyer. Have I missed anything apart from the the operating system? Anyone have any comments or advice about any of the components?

Only thing I can think of is whether I should spend £186 on the 300gb raptor hard drive or get a standard sata II drive instead. Reason why I want a raptor drive is because I find that the hard drive is always the bottleneck for system performance especially for older machines.

For example, I find my pc struggling sometimes even though the cpu usage is at say 25% and there is still 1.5gb of ram available. I can tell too because you can hear the hard drive gurgling! Its a sata 1 drive, maxtor, 7200rpm, 16mb cache but its 5 years old.

CPU; AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 3.4GHz Socket AM3 8MB L3 Cache 125W Retail Box Processor, £136.95, 186428 (ebuyer code)

Motherboard; Asus M4A785TD-V EVO 785G Socket AM3 onboard DVI VGA HDMI 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard, £67.50, 169532

Graphics card; Sapphire HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI DisplayPort HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card, £133.54, 189741

RAM; Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz/PC3-12800 HyperX Memory Kit CL9(9-9-9-27), £90.17, 169240

PSU; Corsair 650W TX Series PSU - 120mm Fan, 80+% Efficiency, Single +12V Rail, £71.96, 135514

Case; Coolermaster Sileo Quiet Case With 500W Extreme Power Plus PSU *Special Offer Bundle*, £79.99, 167439

Hard drive; Western Digital WD3000HLFS 300GB Hard Drive SATAII 10000rpm 16MB Cache - OEM WD VelociRaptor, £181.79, 149435

Monitor; Philips 230C1HSB 23" Full HD LCD Monitor 1920x1080 12000:1 (Dynamic) 300cd/m2 2ms VGA/DVI-D/HDMI/USB Multimedia Glossy Black, £156.13, 161787

Keyboard; Microsoft Wireless Laser Desktop 5000 - USB, £24.99, 128028

DVD drive x 2; Samsung SH-S223 22X DVD±RW/RAM/DL Serial ATA Black Bare Drive - OEM, £14.99, 145450

Speakers; Logitech X-210 Speakers - 2.1 Channel 25W RMS, £25, 94472

It all works out at £998 + about £80 for windows 7 so just slightly over budget.

  VNAM75 02:11 07 Mar 2010

Hard drive is £181.79, not £186

  I am Spartacus 02:23 07 Mar 2010

An SSD isn't within your budget so rather than a Velociraptor get a Samsung F3 1TB which is faster and 3 times bigger. In fact get 3 for less than the cost of a single Raptor.

  AL47 02:45 07 Mar 2010

the VR is better than the samsung F3

i have a 300GB VR, i dont think id pay 180 for a hard disk tho, [i got mine for £100] id probaly buy an SSD and 1.5TB hdd

  VNAM75 02:51 07 Mar 2010

Thanks for that, I may just go for one of those and save loads

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