would you say she had a problem

  carver 16:54 17 Mar 2015
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Sorry but looking on BBC website and nearly fell off the chair laughing when I saw this, I know I shouldn't but it's the irony of it.

How can someone preach to others about the wrongs of doing some thing while doing the act themselves.

  john bunyan 17:00 17 Mar 2015

"How can someone preach to others about the wrongs of doing some thing while doing the act themselves"

That could apply to many people - some priests + child abuse, - many others spring to mind.

The woman you linked was plain stupid.

  SparkyJack 17:53 17 Mar 2015

The old adage comes to mind

'Don't do as I- do as I say'

  bumpkin 18:30 17 Mar 2015

I am surprised that she is not a politcian

  LanceAlot 01:43 18 Mar 2015

Judges, juries and executioners. “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her".

She needs help, it's as simple as that. And looking at the way she went about things she's crying out for it albeit it in a perverse way.

  Forum Editor 11:34 18 Mar 2015

"nearly fell off the chair laughing when I saw this"

Well, I suppose I can see the irony involved, but it certainly isn't something to laugh about. Millions of people have a problem with alcohol. There's a tendency for some people to think that alcohol-dependency results from a lack of will power; they take the view that the person concerned could stop drinking if he or she just pulled themselves together.

Unfortunately it is far from being that simple. I knew someone with a serious alcohol problem very well. She died as a result, but when she was alive I tried to help, and in the course of doing that I learnt a good deal about the problem. It's a horrible situation, and affects young and old, both sexes, and people from all walks of life. The woman in your link obviously needs some help - I hope she gets it.

  carver 14:28 18 Mar 2015

Forum Editor she is or was responsible for telling drink drivers how to solve their problems when she had the same problem herself and she ran these courses for over 20 years.

Now how can any self respecting person stand up in front of some one else and tell them what a problem they have with drink because what she is saying is "do as I say not as I do".

Now put yourself in the position of some one who was ordered to attend one of these courses run by her because they had been just over the limit the next morning, how do you suppose they will feel.

Sorry but have no sympathy for her at all, she knew the effect drink driving can have on people because she preached about it and still went ahead and committed the offence.

Suppose it's a bit like those judges who were watching porn in their chambers then giving some one a prison sentence for doing the same.

  john bunyan 14:42 18 Mar 2015

I accept that a true alcoholic has a medical problem that is difficult to solve - I also had a friend who had this problem. However although slightly off subject, I believe that if a confirmed alcoholic commits a serious driving offence they should be suspended from driving until they provide a certificate of sobriety. Many alcoholics are driving around under the influence relying on the fact that random breath tests are not carried out.

  john bunyan 14:52 18 Mar 2015

Further to the above I know from personal experience that for some medical conditions , and if advised by a doctor that the condition is statutorily liable to be reported to the DVLA (such as a brain tumour), that one has to discontinue driving for a period (2 years sometimes) after the condition has been resolved, even with no symptoms.

The DVLA could propose that if a doctor certifies that a person is an alcoholic , that their licence is suspended until a "sobriety" certificate is provided by, say, 2 doctors.

  Pine Man 16:12 18 Mar 2015

if a doctor certifies that a person is an alcoholic/"sobriety" certificate is provided by, say, 2 doctors.

Have you even considered the mechanics of this?

Absolute rubbish - in my humble opinion.

  john bunyan 17:23 18 Mar 2015

Pine Man

Have you even considered the mechanics of this?

Yes, I have. The DVLA have a well entrenched system for medial issues.

I was diagnosed with a small brain tumour , and my doctor immediately told me to stop driving and report to the DVLA. They in turn have suspended my licence for two years after treatment, and I will provide medical evidence then that I am fit so my licence can be restored.

Exactly the same could apply to a persistent alcoholic. On diagnosis or conviction for a drink driving offence, a person would be examined by an independent DVLA approved doctor and if found to be a persistent alcoholic their licence would be suspended until the prove they are no longer a persistent alcoholic. The DVLA have a long list of conditions that cause licences to be suspended, and I see no reason why persistent alcoholism cannot be added to it.

When you say "absolute rubbish", are you happy that chronic and persistent alcoholics (who are often over the limit) should be allowed to drive?

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