Seems that Labour didn't even..

  Stuartli 00:54 07 Nov 2008

..arrange an after by-election party in Glenrothes last night/early this morning because the party didn't believe it would win...:-)

Mind you the Labour's share of the votes went down three per cent and the SMP's share rose by 13 per cent.

Still I'm sure that Gordon Brown won't be complaining too much.

  Mr Mistoffelees 08:29 07 Nov 2008

There's optimism for you!!

  Stuartli 10:01 07 Nov 2008

I'm impressed with the Daily Mail this morning - full story on the result on Page Two.

The Mail is delivered to my house at around 7-10am.

  laurie53 10:37 07 Nov 2008

According to the figures I've seen Labour got around 500 more votes than they did in the general election.

A pretty impressive performance mid-term.

  Spark6 20:25 07 Nov 2008

You're right! Labour and SNP apparently increased their numbers of votes while the poor old Tories and Lib Dems lost their deposits.

Enough to make a poor man cry.

  Bingalau 20:41 07 Nov 2008

It isn't as if Labour gained the seat, they only held it. So it's no big deal really.

  Stuartli 00:01 08 Nov 2008

There was a 4.96 per cent swing from Labour to the SNP - hardly impressive for Labour.

  Forum Editor 00:29 08 Nov 2008

a win is a win, regardless. Let's try to keep the party political point scoring out of the threads. Criticise the government until the cows come home, but we'll do without the overt party bias, please.

  laurie53 11:13 08 Nov 2008

"So it's no big deal really."

It is in Scotland. All the indicators were of an SNP win (except this forum, which predicted the SNP loss!) and this was a big upset.

However, it should be remembered that this is the only area of the UK ever to return a Communist MP, and did so until 1950, well within the memory of many people, and a deep rooted socialist heritage should be expected.

In a reverse of the normal local elections being affected by national issues, this national election was affected much more than usual by local issues which even much of Scotland was unaware of.

The one which came up on every vox pop was care charges.

The new local SNP controlled council has greatly increased care charges, from £4 a week to £11 an hour.

It matters little that they did this to recover a £6m deficit inherited from the outgoing Labour administration, or that Labour councils in many parts of Scotland are charging much more, this is what rankled, and what the other parties made much of.

Imagine your common care package of about two hours a day, one to get dressed in the morning and to get for bed at night.

That cost has now gone up from £104 a year to over £8000!

Small wonder the other parties made much of it!

  laurie53 18:57 08 Nov 2008


Lower figure should be £208.

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