Police and Crime Commissioners

  bremner 17:46 05 May 2014

The Commons Home Affairs committee has passed its view on PCC's two years since they were elected on a 15% turnout.

BBC Link

Have you noticed any changes, good or bad, in your local Force since the PCC "took over"

  carver 17:56 05 May 2014

*bremner *Sorry to tell you but that link is to Foxcom Download Center, don't think it has any thing to do with subject you started discussion about.

  john bunyan 18:27 05 May 2014


Try this:


  bremner 20:57 05 May 2014

That was strange, i have not been on the Foxconn website ( checked my history) yet managed to post a link.

This is what was intended BBC Link

  morddwyd 07:19 06 May 2014

"Do we have them up here in Scotland?"

How can we - there's only one Police Force.

  fourm member 08:17 06 May 2014

No, we couldn't.

The parliamentary report says;

'One of the main aims of the PCC reforms was to introduce democratic accountability to the determination of local policing priorities.'

  spuds 08:50 06 May 2014

The whole role of PCC was a knee jerk reaction based on the American idea of 'elect your own sheriff',mainly for accountability and transparency purposes. If you don't like the way things are going, then at the next election you vote them out.

What a number of people perhaps do not know, is the way the old system worked, and how the new system was to make major changes. The 'new system' still allows local councillor's to have control, and even veto the PCC.

There are a number of PCC's who are on a collision course with their Chief Constables, mainly due to a 'us and them' power and confrontation barrier, and in some cases being pure stubborn.

  fourm member 11:19 06 May 2014

MechKB 2

'democratic accountability'

Is not a popular concept with the Scottish government.

  fourm member 13:59 06 May 2014

MechKB 2

PCCs were supposed to be one move to make people take more responsibility for their own communities. It would seem that most people are happy just to moan about what is wrong but don't want to have to do anything about it.

The Tory manifesto for 2010 was titled 'Invitation to Join the Government of Britain'. Seems like most people declined that invite.

  spuds 15:02 06 May 2014

"The Tory manifesto for 2010 was titled 'Invitation to Join the Government of Britain'. Seems like most people declined that invite."

And who can blame them, because I think most know that if you are not part of the inner circle, or have a tendency to rock the boat, then that type of invitation isn't open, because it doesn't allow for accountability or transparency, like some of us would like to see.

This PCC subject is very like the role of 'Mayor' in some parts of the country, when the Mayor role was forced upon the electorate by certain political parties?.

  HondaMan 16:05 06 May 2014

Totally unnecessary level of cotton wool. Ditch the PCC and save millions which could then be used to give us a better police service

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