Media Staff or Medical Staff?

  morddwyd 07:54 04 Jul 2010

NHS Scotland spend £4m on 120 media staff, which would pay for 150 nurses.

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Not only is this too much, but it would also seem to indicate that media staff are paid more than nurses.

About par for the course in today's image conscious world.

  Forum Editor 09:39 04 Jul 2010

Who says so?

I expect it's you, and of course you're entitled to think that, but there can be no rational basis for such a statement.

As fourm member suggests, there might be no need for 150 extra nurses if Scottish people were more aware of how to stay healthy, and it may well be the case that £4 million is money well spent in that respect.

There's a tendency to knee jerk reaction whenever the words 'media staff' are mentioned, but the NHS needs media staff, like it or not. Whether 125 people for the whole of Scotland is too many or not is something I can't say, and neither I suggest can you.

  Big L 266 09:44 04 Jul 2010


The government should rid the NHS of Strategic Health Authorities, Regional Health Authorities, Local Health Authorites and replace them with one health authority per county. The billions of pounds wasted on thousands of pointless overpaid and over-titled pen-pushers in these even more pointless and useless paper-creating authorities could be given back to proper healthcare so that ALL the people of the UK would benefit.

Back to 1948 basics I say. Less is,in this case,more.

Big L 266

  Kevscar1 10:21 04 Jul 2010

Now come on the NHS need all the media staff they can get to put spin on the cock-ups and cover ups that keep getting exposed.

  Forum Editor 10:40 04 Jul 2010


Back to men dying at an average age of 66 and women at 70, rather than 78 and 82 as they are today.

Since 1948 the general health of the nation has improved out of all recognition, and as a consequence we're living longer - quite a bit longer. That increased longevity comes at a cost, however - an ageing population means a heavier demand is being placed on the NHS, and that means it costs more to run.

People expect more from the NHS than they did in 1948, and as medical science has advanced, so people have come to expect a higher standard of medical care - we all want to take advantage of advances in surgery and drug care.

The population of the UK in 1948 was 49 million; now it is around 62 million and climbing - the pressures on the NHS are going to increase, and going back to 1948 basics would be just about the worst thing that could happen.

  zzzz999 10:52 04 Jul 2010

'NHS Scotland spend £4m on 120 media staff, which would pay for 150 nurses.'

As we are using 'nurses' as currency:-

If we dumped trident that would pay for 450,000 nurses; and

If we got ourselves out of Iraq and Afghanistan that would pay for 150,000 nurses each year

  spuds 10:54 04 Jul 2010

If the NHS (in whatever part of the UK) can afford an increase in management and administration, then whats a few more spin doctors to add to the roll. If there is a shortage of nursing staff, then agency workers are available!.

Close wards, move beds, cancel operations or appointments, but increase pen pushers, then that would seem about right. Nothing like having more nonsense jobs to impress the public.

In my location there were very serious complaint's not all that long ago regarding two consultants specialist. Plenty of spin until one case went to court, and the other was investigated externally by an independent body. On both cases, the hospital trust have a very steep compensation bill to meet, mainly due to incompetence and spin from the medic profession. Nothing like have a very late apology, after all the damage as been done. But then again, some people can go to bed at night with a clear mind.

  Kevscar1 11:43 04 Jul 2010

As far as I can recall neither the Iraqi or Afghan people invited us to invade their countries so are you saying we should just pull out and leave them to sort out the mess we helped to create. Say to those families actually your son's/father's deaths mean nothing we are giving up and running away.

  wee eddie 13:08 04 Jul 2010

It should be possible to streamline the Administration. There will be many cases of duplication of effort and there is a possibility of reducing the number of Tiers.

However the NHS, as with any other Organisation, needs an efficient Management Structure for the Front Line to be able to do their job efficiently.

Perhaps it has become a little top heavy, but it is still necessary.

One must recognise that it is human nature to attempt to enhance ones Speciality and 'more staff' is the easiest way to go. Departmental Heads will have been doing this for years and turning that around will not happen overnight.

How does one persuade an Individual that he/she will gain more Kudos if they manage the same task with fewer Staff?

Answer that question and the Administration will start shrinking of it's own accord.

  spuds 14:06 04 Jul 2010

In our local hospital's trust, they had a reorganisation a few months back. Some managers lost their jobs by either demotion or transfer out of the service. A neighbour's daughter had been an administration manager with 25 years service, working through the ranks. She was appointed to another managerial job, when her department was closed down. Not only is she admitting that she knows virtually nothing about the new job (and having to train others), but she is also now on depressants, with a very good possibility of her leaving the job altogether with an early retirement package (if her union and legal adviser is correct).

Apparently some other people involved in the 're-shuffle' are also experiencing the same difficulties. It would appear that the 'selection committee' hadn't had a clue as to what they were doing, regarding who should fit-in where. But then again, I am only going on what the mother told me!.

I can see this little exercise costing the NHS and taxpayer a fair bundle, both financially and expertise wise, in the next few years. Yet we still have incompetents walking about, trying to convince people how important they and their job role are.

  Forum Editor 20:19 05 Jul 2010

of a London NHS health trust today. She told me that without media staff her trust would not operate at anything like its optimum efficiency. Communication with both patients and potential patients, medical professionals, Drug companies, voluntary organisations, educational institutions etc. would not be possible without professionals on hand to prepare the various leaflets and newsletters, the health education programmes and to deal with the press and radio/TV enquiries that - in her words - are a regular part of the day.

If the NHS was a conventional business it would be the third largest company in the world. Its annual cost to the nation exceeds that of the Chinese army.

Running such a concern in the commercial world without a team of media people would be unthinkable and impossible.

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