nobbywebfoot 18:49 13 Aug 2007

I read today's article with interest and, I must admit, very deep frustration because after trying almost all versions over a period of two and a half years I never did get beyond the opening screen in any of them.
I begged and pleaded for help, slowly building up an abiding hatred for the endless spaghetti drivel of that internet institution, the FORUM.
I only ever had one sensible person give me a straight answer when I asked "Is there any Linux written in a plain language?" That reply was regretfully no, but there is hope for the future.
WHEN a plain language Linux distro (version) is produced for the ordinary person to understand and USE. Linux users will quadruple overnight and very rapidly go on to become far greater than Windows.
Until that happens I am afraid that it will continue to languish as an exclusive club for geeks.

  Forum Editor 18:53 13 Aug 2007

Which article was that?

Linux threads invariably attract a lot of responses, so stand by your keyboard.

  nobbywebfoot 19:15 13 Aug 2007

My apologies for not being clear, I meant the article "Linus Torvalds Discusses Linux"

  Pesala 19:33 13 Aug 2007
  Pesala 19:49 13 Aug 2007
  laurie53 19:50 13 Aug 2007

Must admit I find Linux a bit of a mystery too.

My son gave me a fully "set up" system on dvd, but I just don't find it easy.

  octal 20:18 13 Aug 2007

Linux is getting better.

I'm not a geek by any means, in fact I'm a bit of a numpty at times. I started of using Xandros which is a commercial version of Linux, I recently left them because of various reasons and was looking around for different distributions, I think I tried about 4 or 5, the one I've decided on is PCLinuxOS click here

The good news is that you don't have to use the command line at all if you don't want to, I do use it sometimes, but that's personal choice. The repositories (the place where the programs are kept) is updated every two or three days rather than two or three months as in the case of Xandros and some of the other Distributions.

The great thing about it is that you don't have to load it onto your hard drive to test it, it runs from the CD, if you don't like it just close the computer remove the CD and nothing is touched on your computer. If you like it the install takes about 20 minutes, like any system though you have to spend the next couple of weeks playing with it to tweak it how you want it to work.

Lastly, the forum, the guys on there are great, I haven't seen anyone 'put down' because they are a bit slow on the uptake, bit like me really, they are patient.

So I think the answer to your question is yes there are Linux distributions that are written in plain language, but you have got to be prepared to commit quite a bit of learning to get to grips with it, can you remember learning about Windows?

I know I said lastly above, but I've got to mention security, I've got a Firewall and that's it, no AV or ani-spyware programs because there's no need.

I think you'll notice the Linux crowd snipe less at Microsoft these days, hopefully in line with Linus Torvalds views in the article, not once did he take a pop at Microsoft, so why should the users of Linux? The two have got to coexist in this world and It's nice to have choice.

That's just my little story.

  interzone55 20:42 13 Aug 2007

I was going to install Ubuntu yesterday, inside a virtual machine using Microsoft's VirtualPC.

I thought this would be a super idea, getting the best of both worlds, but my plan fell at the first hurdle when the install of VirtualPC stopped because it detected that I didn't have a compatible OS.

I'm running Vista Home Premium, but VirtualPC only works on XP Home & Pro, and Vista Business & Ultimate.

So if it runs on the Home version of XP, why doesn't it run on the Home version of Vista.

  LastChip 23:49 13 Aug 2007

This post is being written on PCLinuxOS laptop connected to a wireless network. Something that would have been a major hurdle as recently as a year ago.

Things move on and Linux is no exception.

Alan14: I suggest you dump MS VirtualPC and download and install VMware Virtual Server; a free application that will run Ubuntu (and many others) with no problems. If you want more of a "Windows feel" to Linux, try Kubuntu or indeed PCLinuxOS.

  ashdav 00:23 14 Aug 2007

That's because Vista is pants.
Another Linux distro to try is Mepis click here
PCLinux is good too.
I've posted this link before click here but it won't hurt for it to be read again.

  DieSse 00:33 14 Aug 2007

Some of the latest versions of Linux are probably even "easier" than Windows.

However they ARE different - things are in different places and work in different ways. Also there are many Windows programs that don't have versions that work with Linux (just as there are many Linux programs that don't work with Windows.)

So if you are a Windows user, you will have to put some effort in learning how to work with Linux (and the reverse is true too).

There are also some useful things that Linux can do that Windows can't - for instance Linux can talk to Windows file systems - Windows cannot talk to Linux file systems. There are some specialised Linux versions which use this to enable broken Windows installations to be repaired, even!

Also the installation CD(s) for Linux contain just about everything you need for a fully functioning system, including an "Office" package. Windows doesn't come like that.

PCLinuxOS is possibly more "windowslike" than many others. Later on this year, with KDEv4, (K)Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon), and OpenSuse10.3 final releases, the Linux option gets better and better all the time.

As long as most new systems leave the factory with Windows installed - and due to the enormous installed Windows base - don't expect Windows to be overtaken by Linux for many many years, if ever. Hoever, now that Dell, Lenovo, and soon Acer are supplying systems with Linux pre-installed (and at lower prices) - do expect Linux to make bigger inroads into the desktop market.

I have WinXP and Xandros dual booted on my systemm, and an alternative drive with varying shades of Linux. I have never made a fuss about what I may have running at any time - but my Son and Grandchildren (all of whom use a WinXP system at home) use any of them with nothing but the most minor of prompting from me (such as - it's called OpenOffice, not Microsoft Office on this system).

I still use WinXP as I've got several programs I'm used to, which don't run on Linux (or I haven't tested via Wine yet). This is getting less all the time - but I do a fair amount of support work with XP (and run a local computer club), so I can't afford to drop it or forget it.

As for Vista - no chance at all that I will ever acquire it.

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