Flying to Spain this summer?

  Jak_1 20:50 28 May 2007
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"Introduction of Advance Passenger Information (API)
as from 13 June 2007

As from Wednesday 13 June 2007, all British
passengers flying to Spain will need to comply with a
new Advance Passenger Information system which is
being introduced by the Spanish government. This API
system involves supplying your full name, nationality,
date of birth and passport number before travel. If
this information is not supplied to your airline or
tour operator in advance, it will have to be collected
manually by check-in staff on the day of travel.
Airlines face fines up to £40,000 per passenger if API
information is not properly collected and processed.
Warnings are being given that passengers could face
delays at check-in while the information is collected,
that they could be denied boarding if they refuse to
provide it, and that they could face immigration
problems in Spain if there are any irregularities.

There is already a lot of media speculation and
scaremongering about massive flight delays and a
summer of holiday chaos, etc as a result of API
measures. But as long as passengers are prepared to
supply the information and adhere to minimum check-in
times, that speculation should hopefully prove
unfounded.

Some airlines and tour operators have made
adjustments to their websites and are now asking for
the information at the time of booking, or are
allowing passengers to update existing bookings before
the day of travel. But those without that technology
in place will need to collect the information manually
at the airport.

If you are already booked to fly to Spain from 13
June onwards, it may be worth checking with your
airline or tour operator to see if any facilities are
in place to collect this information before travel.

Spain is the first country in Europe to implement
this API system, but it will be introduced in other
nations during the next 12 months as part of enhanced
aviation security and anti-terrorism measures."

  Forum Editor 23:09 28 May 2007

that such a commonsense measure wasn't introduced a long time ago.

  Spark6 23:19 28 May 2007

apply to 'passengers' entering the UK? If not, why not?

  spuds 00:23 29 May 2007

What happened to the EU and 'open borders and free unrestricted travel'?.

But then again, a number of countries have had similar regulations for many years, even before the threats of aircraft security and terrorist activities.

  Forum Editor 07:28 29 May 2007

is unfortunately a terrorists' charter. Commonsense should tell you that unless we all take steps to protect our security we have only ourselves to blame when something goes wrong.

I hope we're not going to witness an outbreak of whingeing because the Spanish government has introduced measures to protect its citizens.

  Jak_1 12:22 29 May 2007

I don't have a problem with this; full name, nationality, date of birth and passport numbers are hardly state secrets! Far from resticting travel and free movements it will aid in allowing you to have this and giving these details in advance at time of booking travel should help make check in a simple formality. If a simple measure like this can help make life safer then good and it's hardly big brother stuff, simple security.

  donki 12:37 29 May 2007

Ummmm this may seem like a really stupid question.... but wots the difference? Sure your passport is checked when checking in and its checked when arriving at your destination?

Or am i missing something?

  Forum Editor 17:54 29 May 2007

The API system enables the receiving country to know in advance who is about to enter its airport. There's time to check everyone against databases of known criminals/terrorists, and if necessary to inform the departure airport that an individual will not be permitted entry. The departure airport may then advise the person concerned that he/she will not be permitted to travel, and why.

When I travel to work in America I know that the UK airline has notified the American immigration authority that I'm coming, and more to the point, I know that America has had the same information about everyone else on my flight. It's quite reassuring in a troubled world.

  donki 18:59 29 May 2007

Oh i see well sounds like a good idea, and as said will hopefully stop terrorists travelling.

Couple of points thou, do terrosts really use genuine passports also and it would be very embarassing if there was a database problem and people were placed on it by accident, admin mistake.

Is there plans for it worldwide?

  sunny staines 18:59 29 May 2007

might be because the uk is sanctuary to so many dodgy people our judges will not deport and other people who are wanted overseas for serious crimes but we refuse to hand over

  spuds 19:08 29 May 2007

It makes life a lot easier this way for all concerned.

In the 1970's I had a 'slight' visa problem, and on 'transit' arrival at Miami in the USA, I ended up in the airport lock-up for 2 hours, then escorted to the on-going flight out of America. The airline that had agreed to take me from the UK to the USA were fined US$1000.00, and as stated that was way back in the 1970's.

Must state that on arrival at my final destination South America, the problems were sorted out, and many future trips via/to the USA went without problems or concerns.

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