Employment Agencies falsely advertising jobs!

  Autoschediastic 13:36 22 Aug 2011
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Good afternoon chaps,

Over the weekend i bumped into an old friend, its been some years since we spoke and we had a lot of catching upto do, during the catch up i found out he is an Area manager for a national employment agency and has been for a while, i asked him is it true that some agencies advertise jobs through newspapers/job centre and other forms that DONT exist?

He told me this is the case and has been for many many years! and there is very few agencies that dont do this kind of tactics, as we used to be such great friends he went into a bit more detail and besides the beer was flowing very well :-)

He told me there is almost 95% of the operating agencies that do this due to keeping their books clean and better for presentation purposes (Whatever that meant?) i have had this illusion for some years and now it has finally been proved, so i wondered if the government should stop this or at least look into these kind of business tactics cause its very obvious that its NOT fair to the person/s that are applying for a job that simply DONT exist...

When i asked him his thoughts on this he simply replied "Its the nature of the beast"....

  kidsis 14:46 22 Aug 2011

had to reply when I saw this: I knew this many years ago - agencies were fine in those days for temping, but I would never have gone to an agency for a "proper" job - everyone knew the vast majority of the jobs did not exist. The cards in the window would be "circulated" each week, in other words the cards would be replaced regularly and it was a kind of game to look in the window to see how many I would recognise from weeks beforehand. I would be surprised if agencies had changed for the better. How companies can be such mugs as to use them I just don't know - they charge exorbitant fees, and in my view larger companies would be better off financially by employing "bank" workers: the bigger the company the more the number of staff off sick, on holiday or on maternity leave. Save a fortune in agency fees.

  spuds 16:11 22 Aug 2011

Perhaps a point worth remembering is that an agency can perhaps provide staff at very short notice, when replacements might be hard to get from elsewhere. The days of having your own labour force, especially seasonal work, as long gone, except for a few specialists staff that a company may have to retain.

A friend of mine runs a large food processing factory which at peak season (7/9 months of the year) as something like 300/400 temps and 40 full time own labour force, working 3 shifts over 6/7 days. In the 'quieter periods', the 40 odd just keeps the place 'ticking over'. Think of the wage bill and other expenses that go into employing a work force of that size in the peak period, and possibly the best part my friend as very little worries about filling vacant slots or dealing with 'temps', because this is all left to the agency or agencies that his company uses.

So is it a case of false advertising, not if there are vacanies to have!.

  Pine Man 17:15 22 Aug 2011

Is this any different to travel agents advertising really cheap holidays in their windows but when you get inside they've always gone?

  nangadef 17:30 22 Aug 2011

A ploy to get your details in their records.

  Autoschediastic 18:03 22 Aug 2011

Pine man & spuds yeah they are some great examples indeed!

My only point is they should not be able to advertise jobs that dont exist..they should be rapped for doing it wasting people who are unemployed time and giving them false hope...

  zzzz999 19:33 22 Aug 2011

My wife is a well qualified social care worker. She recently applied for a job with a local authority community addiction team. This is a tough job that requires considerable experience dealing with people suffering from alcohol and drug dependancy and the impact that has on immediate family. Over 200 people applied for the job, the job went to an admin worker in the council addiction team who had nil qualifications, nil experience but already worked there.

  OTT_B 21:52 22 Aug 2011

Employment agencies have always been a farce...or at least most of the one's I've dealt with over the years have been anyway.

Not only advertising ghost vacancies, but also refusing to process applications unless you give the name of your current boss (presumably with the intention of picking up another vacancy if you are successful in getting the job), taking sometimes enormous cuts of the hourly pay rate. In a previous job, there was a difference of up to £10ph on peoples pay, but who worked on exactly the same contracts - it's just some agencies were taking a ridiculously big slice.

Then there's actually getting them to process an application for a job that you are suitable for. Agencies have their 'favoured' people. The people who will get a call first for an opening. If your not on that list, then forget it! Of course, they still advertise the position.

And who could ignore the competency of the 'recruiter' to actually identify a person who is suitable for a job from their CV? There is such a thing as writing your CV to meet the job description, that I accept. But the agencies who can end up (re)writing the description don't always understand the job. So writing a CV that will get an interview, and writing a CV that will get your application forwarded to the employer can end up being two totally different things.

I hate them. With a passion. Apart from one, and that's the one I work through now. Highly competent staff who listen to what you say, they answer the phone or call back if they're not available (that's unusual as well!), and they take a very reasonable cut (6% ish).

  kidsis 10:09 23 Aug 2011

rick'scafe, local authorities have to advertise all vacancies (agreement with unions), but it is true that a lot of the time people already working for the council will get the job. It's not far short of cruelty to give unemployed people that kind of hope when you know full well someone already employed will get the job. But, at the job centre they make you apply, and I am sure that being civil servants they also know that just because the job is advertised does not mean someone outside will get it. Add in that if you don't happen to get a job within a particular time span you risk losing benefits, it's usually your money that you spend on stamps, paper and envelopes, printing the application - I have been there and have much experience of this game.

  Aitchbee 19:06 23 Aug 2011

My girl-friend has worked as an auxilliary nurse for 25 yrs. She has been through ten interviews over the last 5 years, trying for a better job, in the same health board. (more suitable to her needs.)I reckon the jobs that are advertised, are just for show.Foreign people are employed willy-nilly.

  Noldi 19:10 23 Aug 2011

Not only agencies but I have found some HR departments to be quite unprofessional in my eyes. Automated e-mails thanking you for your application and promise of contact in a certain time but never happens, invite to interviews via a text message, 1st and 2nd interview promise of a job and waiting 5 weeks for a further contact only to get a text message informing that the job is taken. Now I am freelancing through specialised agency and have plenty of work. Noldi

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