Coincidence or what

  wiz-king 08:01 09 Oct 2012

Two stories from the BBC news today here and here

  Aitchbee 08:36 09 Oct 2012

The newly planned/proposed ' Austerity Schools ' [ in England ]

...will be getting ' Austerity Kitchens '

ie ... NONE!

  morddwyd 09:08 09 Oct 2012

"Roaches are not known to be unsafe to eat"

I'm glad about that!

  Aitchbee 09:19 09 Oct 2012

blue-bottles ... are an acquired taste ;0]

  Aitchbee 09:48 09 Oct 2012

fm said:-

If there is an obligation to provide a hot meal does there really need to be an obligation to provide facilities for preparing and serving the meal?

SO, will hot-meals [for hungry pupils] be delivered to schools where there are no cooking facilities?


Will communal microwave cookers be compulsory additions to ' Austerity Classrooms '?

I suspect both 'cheapskate' options are now being considered by GOVE.

  Aitchbee 13:46 09 Oct 2012

fm - you missed out Ms Bull's preceding remarks:-

"As part of the government's targets for reducing obesity levels and its aim to improve children's health through better diets and lifestyles, school meal providers are expected to prepare nutritious meals from fresh ingredients," she said.

"Not having kitchen and dining facilities clearly specified within the new school premises regulations shows a worrying contradiction in policy."

In Glasgow too, I see many secondary school pupils devouring their 'fast-food' meals (mostly chips/pizza in a roll) during their afternoon breaks...many do this whilst crossing busy roads and more often than not discard the food packaging on the ground.If pupils had proper canteen facilities at school, a lot of the fast-food outlets near where I live, would go out of business...and the health and safety of school children would be all-the-better for it!

  Forum Editor 14:29 09 Oct 2012

In the past, one of my children attended a school that didn't have on-site kitchens. The school meals were delivered read-cooked and kept hot in special heated cabinets at the school.

It wasn't very satisfactory - there were complaints about food not being hot enough, and sometimes not being delivered on time.

Nowadays it would seem to me to be a basic requirement of a school that it has on-site kitchens, and freshly-prepared food. I don't think there's a problem with Microwave-prepared meals. I recently had an eight-day stay in a very large modern hospital where all the meals were microwaved - the food tasted fresh and delicious, and was hot when delivered to the wards.

  carver 14:50 09 Oct 2012

fourm member since you attended school in the last century things have altered and not for the best.

Food that is delivered from off site at best of times is eat-able and at worse so bad you wouldn't feed it to a pig.

My daughter has come home complaining of cold food that should be hot and warm food that should be cold and because the food was delivered from an outside caterers at times not enough food was delivered.

  BT 18:00 09 Oct 2012

Forum Editor

..large modern hospital where all the meals were microwaved - the food tasted fresh and delicious, and was hot when delivered to the wards.

A bit different to my experience recently. The hospital I was in, a large modern hospital, has its food delivered in and as long as you were partial to reheated pasta or jacket potatoes for most meals you were OK. The food was generally DIRE. There was a volunteer came round doing a survey during my stay and he said that this was the biggest complaint he was coming across,

  Bing.alau 18:31 09 Oct 2012

The hospital food I have encountered over the years on the wards, has always been just about o.k. But if you are able to get to the hospital's restaurant, it is an entirely different kettle of fish. There you get a choice of good hot food or cold meals as you wish. There should not be such a big discrepancy.

I've never encountered Meals on Wheels although I think I could probably qualify for them. I prefer to fudge up my own meals which are much better than the previously mentioned hospital ward meals. I have an idea Meals on Wheels are probably something like the ward meals.

  Forum Editor 18:54 09 Oct 2012


It's one thing to offer a wide range of freshly-prepared hot food in a hospital restaurant, and quite another to offer a similar service on the wards.

Meals for in-patients have to be delivered to each bed, at least twice a day(breakfasts are usually cereals), and they all have to be served at more or less the same time. Patients can choose from menus, and in my case that meant a total of around twenty different main courses, four or five starters, and eight desserts (some of them hot), in addition to various sandwiches and special diet meals (Halal, Kosher etc.).

Think about the logistics, and you'll realise that microwaving is the answer, in fact it's really the only answer if you want patients to have so much choice.You want them to have that choice because research has shown that good hospital food accelerates recovery.

My apologies to you, wiz-king, for dragging your thread off-topic.

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