Chinese atheist leaders' latest diktat

  Stuartli 20:27 04 Aug 2007
  laurie53 07:49 05 Aug 2007

Why is the question of whether China should be in charge of Tibet open?

Aren't they an occupying power, or have I misread some modern history?

  Forum Editor 09:10 05 Aug 2007

You've misread nothing - China occupied Tibet in October 1950, since when it has imposed a regime that has been referred to (by Solzhenitsyn) as "more brutal and inhuman than any other communist regime in the world." During the cultural revolution Chinese Red Guards destroyed almost all Tibetan temples, and then proceeded to fight amongst themselves.

In 1988 Qiao Shi, China's security chief, visited Tibet following a resurgence of pro-Dalai Lama factions and vowed that China would henceforth "adopt a policy of merciless repression". The Chinese government has banned all photographs of the Dalai Lama.

As for "it can hardly be blamed for trying to minimise unrest." That's open to debate. It's questionable whether a country that banishes another country's spiritual and administrative leader, and then sets about trying to replace him with a puppet of its own choosing has any justifiable claim to do anything. Tibet could self-govern (with a bit of international help) if China would let it.

  Cymro. 09:57 05 Aug 2007

You call it "trying to minimize unrest." I can think of a few other choice words to describe it, how about genocide.

  Pesala 22:36 05 Aug 2007

The next logical step is for the Chinese Authorities to make a regulation requiring Lamas to get permission before they die.

If the Tibetan people would learn more about Buddhism they might find that they don't really need the Dalai Lama to maintain their faith in Buddhism and to develop their spiritual practice. Religious authority is just as dangerous as secular authority.

Buddhists should follow the Budddha's advice not to rely on any other teacher after his passing away, but to take his teaching and training rules as their guide, and to be a refuge unto themselves.

  Forum Editor 22:59 05 Aug 2007

The Tibetan people probably know as much about Buddhism as you - they have a 2000 year history, and I think we can pay them the respect of accepting that they know what they're doing in a spiritual sense.

  Pesala 23:45 05 Aug 2007

And how would you know what the Tibetan People know about Buddhism, or what I know? "They have a 2000 year history" is a meaningless statement. Buddhism certainly hasn't been in Tibet for that long, so what are you talking about? If they did have a 2000 year history of being Buddhists, what guarantee is that, that they know what the Buddha taught?

  Belatucadrus 23:47 05 Aug 2007

As to the secular world assuming control of the theological sphere, worked OK for Henry VIIIth.

  Belatucadrus 09:53 06 Aug 2007

The Tibetan Empire came into existence in the seventh century when Emperor Songtsän Gampo united many areas and tribes of the region.

Prince Siddhartha Gautama is believed by Buddhists scholars to have been born around the fifth century BCE, but his more exact birthdate is open to debate.

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