PurplePenny 16:36 20 Jan 2005

Under what circumstances would it be beneficial/more efficient to create a site in XML?

Would selected pages be XML or the entire site?

Please elucidate, explicate, explain, expand and expound.


  Forum Editor 17:47 20 Jan 2005

just massive.

The 800 words that I could cram into this box wouldn't allow me to to scratch the surface of the surface.

So instead of trying, I suggest that you
click here and then
click here

Once you're up to speed on that little lot by all means come back on specifics. For what it's worth, this is a rite of passage - good luck.

  PurplePenny 21:10 20 Jan 2005

Sadly I've already spent many hours reading about it, not just online but also several books at work (science library), and I'm none the wiser.

I think I understand the concepts of "what" and (to a lesser degree) "how", it's the "why" that I'm struggling with (and to a certain extent the "when").

This article in part illustrates my confusion:

click here

Maybe what I'm really missing is the point of it. The model we have now works (increasingly so with the release of browsers with better CSS implementation). (X)HTML = what it is, CSS = what it looks like, DOM/scripting = what it does. That makes perfect sense in my head but XML doesn't. (I understand the point if it in a wider context, it's creating entire sites with XML that I'm having problems with, it seems like so much work for something that could be done so easily with the present methods).

"this is a rite of passage"

Oh drat - I thought I'd finally got through all those. ;-)

I just can't get my head around it and I'm feeling stupid.

Aha! I've thought of a specific! Could you recommend a book or two? Provided the book had a UK imprint we probably [see note] have a copy gathering dust in the bowels of the library (unless it's O'Reilly and then it is on open access and I can't hoard in my room).

<librarian class="copyright_deposit">
[note] only probably (not definitely) because, contrary to popular belief, with the exception of the British Library the copyright libraries don't automatically get a copy of every book published. We are only *entitled* to a copy (of UK publications).

  PurplePenny 21:14 20 Jan 2005

Sorry FE - I didn't for one minute mean to imply that you don't understand legal deposit. I got carried away with being librarianish.

  Forum Editor 23:50 20 Jan 2005

is the nub of it in a way - at least it's one of them.

Imagine yourself to be a classical guitarist; you want to design and develop a site that includes lots of musical notation, tons of it. As you get down to it you realise that there just aren't any HTML tags that will get a browser to display music the way that you want it to look............enter XML. Using it, you can create your own custom tags - in fact you can create a whole library of them, and so could a doctor, a research biologist, and anthropologist, a nuclear physicist, a librarian even. XML enables specialists (or rather their web designers) to create special tags that do very precise and unusual things. All you have to do then is hope that your visitors' browsers can display your handiwork.

If data-handling is your thing then XML is straight from heaven.

We're sailing off into deeper waters - maybe you would find it helpful to
click here and then click the XML link at bottom left. It will lead you to an excellent tutorial that is aimed at 'entry level' developers, and will take you around two hours to wade through.

After that - or before - you could dabble a bit:-
click here

  PurplePenny 14:14 21 Jan 2005

Thanks FE. I'll leave the thread open for now in case I have any more questions.

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