Which laptop from these two is the better?

  Macby 11:46 28 Dec 2007

I hope someone can help! We have never owned a laptop but have decided to get one but don't want to rush in and we want a half decent one. It will be mainly used for surfing the net, downloading music etc but I think hubby might be interested in gaming too once he starts using it..might even give it a go myself!

After reading the things to look for on this site I found this and thought it was quite good:

HP Pavilion DV9655ea - £679.99 - Staples
Processor: AMD Turion 64 x2 TL 60
Hard drive: 320GB
Display: 17" Bright View Widescreen TFT
Memory: 2048MB
Graphics: Nvidia GeForce Go 8400 up to 895MB with 128MB dedicated
Wireless lan: Yes a/b/g
Operating software: Vista Home Premium
Optical drive: DVD+/- RW Dual Layer
Cache: 1MB
FSB: 1600Mhz
Clock speed: 2.0Ghz
Additional features: TV Tuner with remote control and webcam
Weight: 3.55kg
Warranty: 1 year collect and return
Battery life: Up to 2 hours
Type of battery: 8 cell
Number of USB ports: 4
Media card slots: 5 in 1 (SD, MMC, XD, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro)
Software included: Microsoft® Works 8, Adobe® Reader 8.0, Windows Movie Maker, DVD Maker, Windows Media centre, Quickplay for Windows

My hubby liked this one:

HP DV9657EM - £749.99 - PC World
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T7250 (2.00 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 2 MB Cache)
Genuine Windows Vista (R) Home Premium
2 GB Memory
250 GB Hard drive
17" Widescreen Display
GeForce GO 6300 Graphics Card
Digital TV Tuner
Integrated Webcam
Wireless enabled

Are they any good and if so which one would you go for and why? Or is there something that we haven't seen out there which is better in the same price range?

Any help is really appreciated.........

  Crash 12:57 28 Dec 2007

For that price I would get either one of these click here with e-value code UKDHSONL-N0172011 or this click here

  wjrt 17:31 28 Dec 2007

for the money the dell has much better graphics so if its gaming then it wins but dont expect Crysis with all the effects though

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