trace and destroy

  User-AFFF82E3-E407-44E0-BD0316A44C272D4C 17:11 23 Jun 2004

Is there a trace and destroy program on the market that will back trace hackers and the like back to the origanating computer then destroy it or at least give it some grief?

  Virtuosity 17:15 23 Jun 2004

it would be nice to have something like that but no there isn't!

  GANDALF <|:-)> 17:16 23 Jun 2004

Your home computer has virtually NO chance of being hacked. Why would a hacker be interested in the dross and drivel that resides on home patio design anyone? In any case, if anyone was hacking they would not use their own IP address, rather a proxy, so bouncing back would be as much use as bouncing spam.

As you have no chance of being hacked your question would seem to be superfluous.


Everytime i allow my computer to register on btyahoo or yahoo messenger i get attacked its not happening on msn. This morning some hacker was try to set of a smurf from my comp and although the firewall wouldn't allow it its still a pain.
Is it something unique to yahoo? Does anyone else have the same problem if i stay away from yahoo i'm fine, but then how do i access my bt e-mail address without having all this rubbish.

Yo gandalf
As you have no chance of being hacked your question would seem to be superfluous.
you woke up and got out the wrong side of the bed again or what?
You might be computer literate i'm not and still count with my head and not a machine lol.

  GANDALF <|:-)> 13:24 24 Jun 2004

You are not being attacked...........You will NOT get hacked on a home computer. Hackers are not interested in the utter drivel that is on mine and everyone else's

Firewalls are useful in stopping Trojans dialling out but to be honest, if someone wanted to put a dialler on a computer, it would not be rocket science. There are at least 5 programmes that can by-pass firewalls, 'TooLeaky' having the Gibsonmeisters' grudgingly awarded seal of entry. The Cult of the Dead Cows' Back Orifice, cheekily named after Microsoft's' Back Office, could easily be put on a target computer, if one was really trying and the firewall would still be asleep dreaming of bytes.

However, like my computer, most home computers contain utter drivel which is important to the owner but naff all use to the great unwashed. Bank and credit card details can be culled much easier than rooting through turgid files on a home computer. Hacking is NOT about breaking into home computers, it is about getting onto networks using passwords.

The 'alerts/attacks' are merely computers on the net asking your computer if it is still connected; these queries are called 'handshakes'. When you are connected to the net you could be going through many servers and routers. This occurs in a millisecond, so you do not notice. All these routers and servers need to know that your computer is receiving, so that they can send images and WebPages to your IP, which is in effect, your mailbox or receiving station. When on the Net you can pass through more than 20 servers and routers and they could all be handshaking your computer at short intervals. You will notice many of the 'alerts' come from Telecoms, which should come as no surprise as they own most of the routers etc. It is also interesting and miraculous that the 'alerts' disappear when you pay for the *ahem* Pro-Version of a firewall (see Zonealarm;-) ).

If you were being hacked, I can assure you that you would not get an alert.

Turn off all the alert buttons/warnings on your firewall safe in the knowledge that you will not be hacked.

If it is any consolation, I do not use a firewall on both my computers and I am on BB. I use a firewall on my laptop only because I take it to out of respect for their fears....... If you want to use a firewall use one that works silently in the background such as Outpost, unless you are networked onto a huge network not home, in which case you should be using a hardware firewall, there is no point in paying for a firewall.

Does this expalin it to you?


Thank you mate sorry i'm a bit dim with comps explained nicely now i aint worried have a nice day and i case you haven't looked yet welcome to the northants website.

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