protecting the kids

  Legolas 15:00 06 Jan 2003
  Legolas 15:00 06 Jan 2003

I want to install software to stop my nieces from accidentally accessing unsavoury sites. I know you can get apps such as netnanny or cyber patrol for this purpose can anyone recommend either of these two are any others.

  jazzypop 16:56 06 Jan 2003

Personally, I wouldn'trecommend either as a complete solution, although they both can play a part.

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  Foolsbane_1 17:28 06 Jan 2003

Very young children should not be allowed to access the internet unsupervised. Older children should be taught how to deal with the unsavoury material which they will almost certainly encounter, then be trusted to use their own discretion.

For those inevitable grey areas, something like this might help -

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  €dstow 18:36 06 Jan 2003

I am not a parent but I can say something about the attitude of my own parents and how they are passing that on to my brother's children.

My parents are fairly liberal in their views, both having been hippies in the sixties with all the love an peace and such like and were quite happy for my brother and myself to look at more or less what we wanted to (the internet wasn't invented then) PROVIDED that we weren't secretive about anything. Anything really foul and/or gross met with their strong disapproval and we quickly learned right from wrong, although they never banned us from it. My brother (older than me) was "caught" with some girly magazines when he was about fourteen or so. Far from being angry, my parents were upset that he didn't feel confident enough to let everyone share them and that he had to hide them away. Since them, we've had no secrets about anything. They are passing this point of view over to their grandchildren (4 and 8) now, wherein my father has set up internet access for them; both at his home and my brother's but the computer in both cases is in one of the main rooms of the house and they can be, and are, observed at all times. This is not peering over the shoulder spying, just keeping a watchful eye on them. If they come across a site that may be thought of as undesirable, they are told that it might not be the best thing to look at it and so on, like that.

Imposing a ban or censorship on anything at all merely promotes interest in an item or subject that otherwise may have been of no interest at all.

They don't have any nanny program to stop them looking at anything naughty. They're not very good anyway and wouldn't be suitable for my brother as he's a consultant gynaecologist and these programs don't differentiate between what might be a professional interest in a subject and porn and, as someone wrote in these columns a long time ago, the censoring dictionaries in these things are fundamentally stupid such that the residents of Scunthorpe and Penistone and several other places in the UK, and moreso abroad, have much difficulty.


  Tog 20:23 06 Jan 2003

Nothing can compete with supervision. If an ugly site is reached inadvertantly you can explain why you're closing the window or just go very red and refer them to their mum (who, me?). There is enough nightmarish stuff on the net to give nightmares and complexes galore. I would no more let my kids surf unsupervised than walk the streets alone at night.

  €dstow 08:12 07 Jan 2003

I note this has been green ticked but it would be interesting to know Legolas' reaction to the replies as all respondents seem to be of the same mind in that these censorship programs aren't all that good.


  Nickg 11:07 07 Jan 2003

click here for two freeware options to add to the list

  Legolas 19:01 08 Jan 2003

I am of the same opinion as most that supervision is the best policy but as you cannot always be there all of the time I thought something like netnanny might prove useful but after installing a free trial edition I could not access this site as it was blocked so I uninstalled it. I suppose supervision will have to remain the best form of censorship.

  GANDALF <|:-)> 19:31 08 Jan 2003

PCWorld are giving a CD called 'safe surfing for children' or similar. Have to agree with €dstow, supervision but more importantly, education.


  Djohn 19:42 08 Jan 2003

It's extremely difficult to avoid these sites even with good protection.

A couple of weeks back someone asked the question, "Do you know where I can find the aquarium screensaver similar to the one in win xp".

So I typed into google the words, "Screensaver and underwater". What came up had nothing to do with either!....... Very harmless question, quite harmful answer, especially for children.

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